Hi Pierre,

- The system can and does work with zip and tar.gz and normal folders.
- The maven repo provides everything we need especially dependency
management. I think upgrading from from your solution to the one I
suggested below might be difficult once an ecosystem builds around the
plug-in system.
- I prefer specialpurpose over hot-deploy becauae of the added value of
activating deactivating components (also easily automated)
- The publishPlugin task takes care of all the details in making your
plugin published as a maven artifact, so you don't do anything by hand.

So I have a solution that works and tested in code. The implementation is
not big because of utilizing established standards like maven and gradle
embedded plugins.

Taher Alkhateeb

On Aug 29, 2016 9:37 AM, "Pierre Smits" <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This solutions must be able to work with:
>
>    - zip files
>    - tar files and other zip variants (tar.gz, etc)
>    - folder structures.
>
> That will enable the adopter to use local storage, but also releases stored
> in GitHub or even svn repos.
>
> At the moment I see the use of maven repos as overkill, adding unnecessary
> complexity when developing extensions. OFBiz is not that complex.. Unless
> we want to have a full-fledged Eclipse-like plugin management solution from
> the start. This is not low-hanging fruit, but rather something to have
> later in the life-cycle of the solution maturity wise. Quick-win, at the
> moment, would be that something could be retrieved from svn, github or
> local folder and deployed in the hot-deploy folder.
>
> I guess I need to see this solution in combination with an example/demo
> component that requires all the elements described in the PoC and the
> earlier postings in this ml.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
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>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
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>
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> slidingfilame...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I am very happy to announce that after a lot of research I finally have a
> > little working PoC solution for the OFBiz plugin system. I believe this
> > system is very simple yet very powerful with the following simple API
> tasks
> >
> > 1- ./gradlew createPlugin: creates a plugin from templates
> > 2- ./gradlew installPlugin: downloads a plugin and all its dependency
> > plugins from a maven repository(it could be local, remote, jcenter,
> > whatever), extracts the archives, add the plugin to component-load.xml,
> and
> > calls the install task.
> > 3- ./gradlew uninstallPlugin: calls the uninstall task, removes the
> plugin
> > from component-load.xml, and deletes the plugin (but ignores
> dependencies).
> > 4- ./gradlew publishPlugin: create a maven compatible package that can be
> > published to either a local or a remote repository.
> >
> > So what is very powerful about this solution? Well, you use the maven
> > format for your packages, so you can host it on any maven repository
> > including jcenter. Also, you have a standard way of declaring
> dependencies
> > (pom.xml) and you pretty much gain all the benefits that comes with maven
> > packages (versioning, dependencies, meta data, etc ...)
> >
> > The solution can be expanded later on, but I think the above provides a
> > good starting point. Ideas? Feedback? Should I go ahead and fine-tune /
> > share the PoC on JIRA?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Taher Alkhateeb
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Le 25/08/2016 à 16:39, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> > >
> > >> Hello Everyone,
> > >>
> > >> I need some opinions for a PoC that I'm working on for the plugin
> system
> > >> (OFBIZ-7972) and appreciate your help:
> > >>
> > >> repository design
> > >> ----------------------
> > >> I am thinking of just having a very simple web server denoted as a
> > >> repository where the plugins are just zip or tar archives that expand
> to
> > >> OFBiz components. For example, if the repository URL is
> www.example.com
> > >> then the plugin could be www.example.com/plugins/Specif
> > >> icPluginHere.tar.gz.
> > >> It downloads to the specialpurpose (hopefully renamed to plugins) to
> > >> expand
> > >> and install
> > >>
> > >
> > > I'm for removing the difference between specialpurpose and hot-deploy.
> > > Why? Simplification!
> > >
> > > We should remove specialpurpose and rename hot-deploy into plugins.
> > > This also means that we should have a Gradle task to automatically
> > > download and install a plugin.
> > > All current specialpurpose would become plugins available in the repo
> > > easily installable using something like
> > >     gradlew installPlugins plugins1Name plugins2Name etc.
> > > I don't see the need to have a differentiated task to install only 1
> > plugin
> > >
> > > The repo should be installed on the new OFBIZ-VM2
> > >
> > > We know that, like for the misnamed hot-deploy, installing a plugin
> will
> > > need a restart of the OFBiz instance.
> > > So this can't be dynamically done (at least for now), but need to be at
> > > least automated.
> > >
> > > The only current issue is if we have dependencies among plugins.
> > > For now we can simply documented them for users to set their own
> > > component-load.xml
> > >
> > > BTW as a reminder, after OFBIZ-6760 we need to update
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Component+
> > > and+Component+Set+Dependencies
> > > And possibly complete the possible existing interdependencies between
> > > specialpurpose components, though I can't remember any, but I feel I'm
> > > wrong here.
> > >
> > >
> > > dependencies
> > >> ------------------
> > >> This is a complicated subject, and there are a few ideas I have in
> mind:
> > >> - Try to deploy the gradle project dependency model
> > >>
> > >
> > > I'd like to know if you crossed issues with that and if yes what they
> > are.
> > > If it's the case can't we share the burden?
> > >
> > > - Alternatively write custom dependency resolution
> > >>
> > >
> > > Please no :)
> > >
> > > However, this might be too complex to kickstart the project, and I
> think
> > >> perhaps we can start without a dependency management system and
> > implement
> > >> it in a later stage.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Yes why not? Baby steps for the win
> > >
> > > Jacques
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Thank you in advance for your help and feedback.
> > >>
> > >> Taher Alkhateeb
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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