Hi Francesco,

Would it be ok for you if the current sample / tutorial ZIP files will be 
release without being in the projects git repo
and afterwards I start a discussion on the mailing list about where future 
samples should be put (e.g. git) and how to release them?

Best regards,
Michael

> On 26 May 2015, at 08:15, Bolz, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Francesco,
> 
>> On 25 May 2015, at 08:50, Francesco Chicchiriccò <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 25/05/2015 08:41, Bolz, Michael wrote:
>>> Hi Francesco,
>>> 
>>> IMHO this sample project sources are nothing wich is really under 
>>> development and hence I thought this should not be put into the Olingo 
>>> project git repo.
>> 
>> Why you say this? What are you going to do when API will change in the 
>> future? Publish updated samples, no?
> 
> You are right, the samples will be updated with updates of the API.
> However put all sample projects as separate maven (sub) modules into the 
> Olingo git repo seems not the right solution for me.
> 
>> 
>>> The quoted:
>>>> "[...] when a release consists of anything beyond an archive (e.g., 
>>>> tarball or zip file) of a source control tag […]"
>>> 
>>> …
> 
>>> However I am open for suggestions on how to handle such sample projects for 
>>> download as ZIP archive.
>>> Should it be put in some git repo (and if yes in which)? (which is IMHO not 
>>> useful).
>>> Or should we do not handle it as a ASF release? (which is IMHO the wrong 
>>> and not the ASF way).
>>> Any opinions and suggestions?
>> 
>> I really don't know, it's the first time I see something similar, and I've 
>> just expressed my doubts.
>> Regards.
> 
> IMHO for Olingo as project it is good to have discussions about such things 
> so that we as community can find together a good solution.
> And now we should try to find a solution for the sample ZIP files  ;o)
> 
> @Franceso: If I understand you correctly you suggest to put the samples into 
> the Olingo git repo. Right?
> 
> Best regards,
> Michael
> 
> 
>> 
>>> [1]: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#owned-controlled-hardware 
>>> <http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#owned-controlled-hardware>
>>> [2]: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain 
>>> <http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 25 May 2015, at 08:04, Francesco Chicchiriccò <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 24/05/2015 09:10, Bolz, Michael wrote:
>>>>> Hi Francesco,
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the tutorials I created the according projects which are not in the 
>>>>> Olingo git repository.
>>>>> My intention was to provide the tutorials together with the according 
>>>>> sample project as a single ZIP file to download from the homepage so that 
>>>>> they can be easily extracted and started.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Therefore I read the documentation for the Apache release process 
>>>>> (http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html 
>>>>> <http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html>) and
>>>>> I came to the conclusion that for providing the sample projects as ZIP 
>>>>> file it is necessary to do a official release of them.
>>>>> So I checked within the release management [1] what a release must 
>>>>> contain [2] and how it must be approved [3].
>>>>> 
>>>>> Based on this I prepared the sample project ZIP files and started the 
>>>>> voting.
>>>>> However if something should / must be handled otherwise I’am open for 
>>>>> help.
>>>> 
>>>> What sounds quite strange to me is to release something which is not under 
>>>> this community's source repositories but somewhere else; to give you an 
>>>> example, in the same link you refer above, it is reported:
>>>> 
>>>> "[...] when a release consists of anything beyond an archive (e.g., 
>>>> tarball or zip file) of a source control tag [...]"
>>>> 
>>>> implying to me that this is the bare minimum.
>>>> 
>>>> I could not find anyway a place where it is clearly stated that "releases 
>>>> are something you tag from one of community source repositories", so to me 
>>>> the doubt remains.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards.
>>>> 
>>>>> [1]: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#management 
>>>>> <http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#management>
>>>>> [2]: 
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain 
>>>>> <http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain>
>>>>> [3]: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#approving-a-release 
>>>>> <http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#approving-a-release>
>> 
>> -- 
>> Francesco Chicchiriccò
>> 
>> Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
>> http://www.tirasa.net/ <http://www.tirasa.net/>
>> 
>> Involved at The Apache Software Foundation:
>> member, Syncope PMC chair, Cocoon PMC, Olingo PMC
>> http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/ <http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/>

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