I have no Hard feeling about this, both have pros and cons..

+0

Plus, because it's initiative, and we lack this very much, and board are
pushing to send us to attic

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015, 10:45 Eric Charles <e...@apache.org> wrote:

> I think it is more how we see onami. Are they independent modules that
> live more or less independently and maintained by different people, or a
> service for the application developer.
>
> If you have changes in only one module, the workload will be the same,
> but if you have changes in multiple modules, you would have to release
> multiple times instead of one. Of course, releasing one supposes the
> timing is good to do it.
>
> On 2015-07-31 10:36, Stephan Classen wrote:
> > decoupling will reduce the workload for releasing. because you only
> > release one module and don't have to worry about all the rest.
> > what increases a little is the work for the developer of a module since
> > they have to maintain their dependencies and cannot rely to the parent
> > because it would only contain the most basic/common dependencies
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 07/31/2015 10:30 AM, Eric Charles wrote:
> >> I see onami more like a platform, meaning that if a dev decides to use
> >> onami-persist, it will potentially decides to use onami-configuration...
> >>
> >> On my side I can invest to release if the workload is not high. Taking
> >> the decoupling way is going to explode the needed work which I won't
> >> be able to offer.
> >>
> >> On 2015-07-31 10:20, Stephan Classen wrote:
> >>> OK, I see you point.
> >>>
> >>> Still i vote  -1
> >>>
> >>> There are currently so few commits that at most 2 modules will have
> >>> changes in a release.
> >>> This means that all other modules have a version released which is
> equal
> >>> to the previous one.
> >>> In the end this makes it very confusing for the end user which version
> >>> they should choose.
> >>> On the other hand it is hard for the developers to figure out which
> >>> versions are affected by a bug.
> >>>
> >>> I would rather suggest going the other direction and decouple the
> models
> >>> more.
> >>> Make them more like full projects and not part of a bigger one.
> >>> This would mean
> >>>   - reduce the number common dependencies in the parent
> >>>   - have a repository per project and not a big repo for all projects
> >>>   - decouple the builds -> don't build all modules but have a build for
> >>> every module
> >>>   - separate project/module for the homepage -> maybe move away from
> >>> building the main page with maven to something more flexible and
> include
> >>> only sub pages from maven (like statistics, testcoverage, javadoc,
> >>> dependencies, ...)
> >>>
> >>> My hopes with this approach would be
> >>> - more up to date homepage
> >>>      - like onami-persist is still in 'sandbox' even though it is
> >>> productive since over a year
> >>>      - maybe become a 'community' site for guice
> >>> - easier to on-board new modules and developers
> >>>      - it is just a pain if it takes more than an hour to get started
> >>> - move to git
> >>>      - this is way simpler if we follow the default maven directory
> >>> hierarchy, which is again simpler for single projects than for
> >>> multi-projects
> >>>
> >>> I think this would address you first two points. What it cannot address
> >>> is you third point about incompatible module versions.
> >>> But the question here is how interdependent are the modules? I don't
> >>> know most of the modules but the ones I took a look at did not interact
> >>> with anything except guice.
> >>>
> >>> So what do you think?
> >>>
> >>> Stephan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 07/31/2015 09:55 AM, Eric Charles wrote:
> >>>> This would result in:
> >>>> - less manual version maintenance in the pom for the developer
> >>>> - less work to have module(s) released
> >>>> - less risk to have users use non compatible modules
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2015-07-31 09:32, Stephan Classen wrote:
> >>>>> What is the main goal of this?
> >>>>> Releasing is currently not a pain.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you want to clear the way for a migration to git?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Stephan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 07/31/2015 09:04 AM, Eric Charles wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To make it easier and lighter, I would like proposing having a
> single
> >>>>>> release for all onami modules/extensions.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The downside is that we may have to release some modules even if
> >>>>>> there
> >>>>>> is no change for some of them.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Eric
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >
>

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