Thanks for your response Hal. Comments inline as well:

> We will probably move most of it over. However, I assume the same
> licensing considerations apply here as for the code, so I have not done any
> work on it yet. I have an action to investigate whether we can retain the
> current email archive at Liberty or whether we will have to move it to some
> other location.
>
>
Ok cool. I was just about to encourage you to log JIRAs to track these when
it appears that JIRA has not yet been set up. I will investigate this.


> > b) Source code formatting: The source uses tabs + contains some control
> > m characters (root pom). The norm at Apache is to use "spaces"
> > indentation instead of tabs in my experience, and normally 4 spaces at
> > that. What do you all think about changing this?
>
> In general we want to conform to Apache standard/best practices. This
> sounds tricky to automate. Are there tools?
>

It's pretty simple to automate this using standard unix tooling. I will
take care of this. I will also add support for checkstyle, so that the
maven build process will fail if tabs have been added to the code.


>
> That is it. The "JP" code is actually all the code contributed to the
> project by various parties all of whom executed an Apache 2.0 license
> agreement, other than the work done at AT&T.
>

Ok thanks for the clarification.


>
> General comment: I have probably spent more time than anyone else in
> OpenAz browsing the Apache and in particular the Incubator pages.
> Unfortunately, I have found the documentation to be hard to find,
> incomplete and in some cases self-contradictory. I have found documents
> which appear to describe current standard practice, but are labeled
> preliminary or draft. In other cases I located a useful document, but the
> page structure was so unintuitive (to me) that it took considerable effort
> to find it again a few days later. I also have had trouble in some cases
> determining what applies to Apache overall and what only to the Incubator.
>
> Now I have worked for the last 15 years in standards organizations (on
> behalf of my employers) so I am well aware that Apache is a volunteer
> organization and I understand the limitations this presents. I freely admit
> that I don't have the time (or knowledge) to fix many of these problems or
> even to systematically identify them.
>
> So what I am requesting is not a comprehensive solution. However,
> especially for the benefit of other members of the project who are even
> less familiar than me with Apache practices and procedures, it would be
> very helpful if one of the mentors (or any knowledgeable person on this
> list) could post a list of the most useful links or for common procedures
> that come up frequently. I am never in favor of make work, so it this
> information already exists, just point me to it.
>

These links may or may not be helpful:

http://community.apache.org/
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html

Feel free to ask anything more specific. Developing at Apache is actually
pretty simple IMO :-)  The main goal we have here is to start building a
community around OpenAZ so that we can exit from the incubator to become an
Apache top level project some time in the future. So once we get the issue
tracking system up and running, I encourage all of you to start creating
JIRAs describing the stuff you are working on, or want to work on in the
future.

Remember that to exit the incubator you will have to add new committers to
the project, so the more open we are, and the more we make it easier to get
people involved the better.

You should feel free to commit any such work (reference the JIRA number in
the commit message so we can link the commit in the JIRA itself). If there
are any objections to the commit, then one of the developers will normally
reply to the commit message and we can hash it out via mailing list. Very
important to note that all decisions relating to the project MUST take
place / be recorded via public mailing list, and not offline.

Colm.



> Hal
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Colm O hEigeartaigh
> >
> > Talend Community Coder
> > http://coders.talend.com
>



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