My line of thinking was based on the rationale of uniformity among
Apache projects.
but I get David's POV. So I guess we should have a site that is unique
but not too different from the general scheme of things. Yes the EJB
3.0 spec portion is a very good idea. People will not want to read the
entire spec. We can give a section by section documentation that is
simple and easy to understand. I believe i have seen such
documentation at the sites of other app server vendors also. Also we
are missing the app server integration part.

Regards
Manu

On 7/4/07, David Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Jul 3, 2007, at 12:17 PM, Karan Malhi wrote:

> Sure,
>
> You make perfect sense.
>
> All:
> So two members think geronimo.apache.org is a nice template for our
> site and would be more intuitive. Does anybody else have anything to
> say here?

I wouldn't want our site to be just a copy of someone else's site.  I
think it's hard to portray OpenEJB as having new and original ideas
if we just clone someone else's visual identity.  Certainly not
opposed to grabbing bits from other sites, Geronimo grabbed "News"
and "Activity" from us.  A good idea is a good idea.  But I
definitely feel we need some originality on our site.

I wonder what our site would look like if we trimmed out some excess
purple (still have some) and used rounder shapes instead of squares.
We might push the pepper up into a solid purple circle, a light
purple shaded bar extending across the top with top nav items in pill
shaped ovals, then the left nav sections on a white background with
regular black text and light purple (or regular purple) bars with
rounded left corner as the section titles.

On the note about nav links, I really like the links Karan proposes.
We could actually expand that "EJB 3.0 spec" to be a place to learn
about EJB 3.0.  We could have a list of all annotations and what they
do, a page that shows the xml tree, definitely something that
explains the defaults and overriding, and we could link our examples
from there too.

-David

> On 7/3/07, Manu George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I mean the links as well as the layout if you feel i makes sense:).
>> Probably we can use the Geronimo site as a template as it is pretty
>> well done.
>>
>> Regards
>> Manu
>>
>> On 7/4/07, Karan Malhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Great,
>> >
>> > Keep the suggestions coming. One thing I would like to clarify
>> though,
>> > when you mean structure, do you mean the site layout , or do you
>> mean
>> > the navigation links have to be the same as other sites..
>> >
>> > On 7/3/07, Manu George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > I agree with Mohammad. A similar structure to the other Apache
>> > > projects makes it easier for users familiar with other Apache
>> projects
>> > > to navigate the OpenEJB site. We can have our own color scheme
>> for
>> > > differntiating our project
>> > >
>> > > On 7/3/07, Mohammad Nour El-Din <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > Good sections Karan :), the only thing I want to mention,
>> why not to follow
>> > > > what some of the Apache projects do like the http://
>> maven.apache.org,
>> > > > http://activemq.apache.org/ , http://geronimo.apache.org/ ,
>> to follow the
>> > > > structure of their web-sites only, which I think they are
>> similar, and we
>> > > > can have our own colors taken from OpenEJB's logo, I mean
>> Red and Black
>> > > > might be the main colors in our site.
>> > > >
>> > > > On 7/3/07, Karan Malhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > As for the color scheme, what changes did you have in mind?
>> > > > > > Something to freshen up the site might not be bad.
>> > > > > Simple black text with white background. My experience
>> with users
>> > > > > (students) has been that if the site is technical, less
>> colors and
>> > > > > clutter is defintely helpful. Some little icons here an
>> there to
>> > > > > emphasize various sections would not be a bad idea.
>> Overall the feel
>> > > > > should be that a simple glance at the page should tell the
>> user about
>> > > > > the major sections in the site.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Ok here is what I am thinking about Navigation, (I am
>> thinking as I am
>> > > > > writing this email, so this definitely could get revised )
>> > > > >
>> > > > > + About OpenEJB
>> > > > >     - What is OpenEJB?
>> > > > >     - Features
>> > > > >     - FAQ
>> > > > >     - Getting Support
>> > > > >     - Release Notes
>> > > > >     - Known Issues
>> > > > >
>> > > > > + Downloads
>> > > > >   - Binary
>> > > > >   - Source
>> > > > >   -Javadocs
>> > > > >
>> > > > > + Documentation
>> > > > >    + Users
>> > > > >        - Getting started
>> > > > >        - Users Guide
>> > > > >    + Developers
>> > > > >        - Getting started
>> > > > >        - Developers Guide
>> > > > >    - Javadocs
>> > > > >    - EJB 3.0 Spec
>> > > > >    - Wiki
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > + IDE Integration
>> > > > >     + Users
>> > > > >         - Eclipse
>> > > > >         - IDEA
>> > > > >         - Netbeans
>> > > > >      + Developers
>> > > > >         - Eclipse
>> > > > >         - IDEA
>> > > > >         - Netbeans
>> > > > >
>> > > > > + Community
>> > > > >     - How to contribute
>> > > > >     - Repository
>> > > > >     - Issue Tracking
>> > > > >     - IRC
>> > > > >     - The Team
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Your suggestions would be invaluable here. Lets strongly
>> critique it,
>> > > > > argue about it, whatever it takes to make it simple and
>> beautiful :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > -David
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Karan Singh Malhi
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > > - Mohammad Nour
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Karan Singh Malhi
>> >
>>
>
>
> --
> Karan Singh Malhi
>


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