+1 I agree, Jon is very active on the project - specially the Eclipse plugin - and as you said if he has the required awareness so he is the right one to be added to the PMC.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Daniel S. Haischt<[email protected]> wrote: > Short note - if anybody has questions concerning legality concerns, > especially you Jon, feel free to drop me a note. I am responsible for > preparing the GA releases of an IBM program product where I am > especially focus on the open source aspects. The product has an > Eclipse client and a middle-tier component and both are re-using > plenty of Apache software. > > Cheers > Daniel > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:52 AM, David Blevins<[email protected]> wrote: >> Since Jon has the most awareness of the eclipse plugin and is going to be >> doing a release, both of which are very much acting in a legal sense, I >> think we should add him to the PMC. >> >> --- pmc info as it relates to openejb --- >> >> We don't focus on the PMC in this project so many may not have a clear >> concept of it. Every project at Apache has a PMC which at minimum >> represents Apache from a legal perspective. The people on it are expected >> to provide legal oversight, making sure that the legal entity that is Apache >> has awareness enough to legally protect the code that leaves it's doors, the >> users that use it, and the people who create it. This means making sure any >> contributions going into the project are clean and can be legally projected >> and making sure any binaries going out meet the legal requirements so they >> as well can be legally protected. It's a lot of watching all commits, >> keeping an eye on doc contributions, ensuring CLAs are on file for anything >> of substantial size, screening release binaries and source for headers, >> license files, making sure any binaries being widely distributed have been >> voted on, etc., etc. If you are on the PMC and you vote on a release it >> means *you* have done all these things to the best of your ability. If you >> have not, you either should not be on the PMC or should not vote +1. >> >> Being on the PMC is a service, not an achievement. Therefore if someone is >> added to the PMC you should not say "congratulations", but simply "thank >> you." It does not mean anything more than they have the time to help us >> function legally. If someone is perpetually too busy to provide legal >> oversight and steps down or goes emeritus, it does not mean they are >> leaving, just that they are too busy for the extra legal responsibility. >> >> Some projects go beyond that and use the PMC as the decision makers and >> leaders of the project. We do not. We make all our decisions here. We >> don't even focus on who is a committer and who is not, which I think is a >> major factor of our family-like community and general "everyone is welcome >> and matters" spirit. If someone doesn't feel like their input matters till >> they are a committer, or any other status, we've done something wrong. >> Fortunately, this is one of our strongest attributes and part of the magic >> that is this community. >> >> That's the 10,000 foot view. >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> >> Back to the subject at hand. I don't think we have enough legal oversight >> for the eclipse plugin. Jon is the obvious remedy for that. >> >> Jon, any questions and do you think you have time to help provide the extra >> oversight? I don't think anything goes into the eclipse plugin that you >> haven't seen and you're now learning all the ins and outs of a legally solid >> release, so you're more or less doing what is required already. If you are, >> I'll put up a vote for adding you. If not, we might want to hold the >> release; there's no rush. >> >> >> -David >> >> > -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour ---- "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein
