On Jul 11, 2009, at 4:38 AM, Jeff Genender wrote:

David,

Voting as a committer, Jon certainly gets my +1 to be a PMC individual. But this vote seems strange whereby committers are voting on PMC membership.

Can you be a bit more specific on the voting of people into the PMC? OpenEJB seems to have a different set of rules and it would be good to clarify the position... perhaps on the wiki somewhere? Most PMC's vote for entry to PMC. Here I see a vote on dev and there has not been clarification as to who gets to vote and whether it be private/public, so its a bit confusing to me.

According to this link, it has a set of rules as to how things are done:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html

It is clear it says the PMC should be the ones to privately discuss and vote on nominees for project, project committee, etc. How do you propose to handle sensitive topics like discussion of a committer out in the open? 99/100 times the discussion and vote will be clean, but that 1/100 time where -1s and heavy sensitive discussion ensues, bad feelings can become a issue.

I read that as saying that as little as possible should be on the private list and that some possible allowed topics are XYZ but that if the project wants to discuss them in public it is free to do so.

We certainly run a risk of bad feelings if acrimonious debate erupts over someones PMC membership. Personally I feel that the openejb community is so amazingly open and friendly that the risks are negligible.

clearing up whose votes count for pmc membership might be good though :-)

thanks
david jencks


Do you have thoughts on how this will be handled as well as a good clarification for OpenEJB's rules regarding voting, etc that seem to move itself away from the way things are normally done at Apache?

Thanks in advance for the clarification,

Jeff

On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:28 PM, David Blevins wrote:

Per the "Adding Jon to the PMC" discussion:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openejb-dev/200907.mbox/%[email protected]%3e

Here's the vote for adding Jonathan Gallimore to the PMC so he can assist in providing legal oversight for the project in general, but more specifically the Eclipse plugin which needs more oversight.

Vote will be open for at least 72 hours -- likely far beyond that as we tend to be a 4-5 days kind of group :)


Here's my +1


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David


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