Bold and maybe crazy statement - The ASF should provide it's own
implementation of Eben Moglen's vision he had with the FreedomBox,
ready-made to support the apache "blessed" communication channels and
there should be a finical aid program for those not having free or
easy access to the internet and especially to such hardware devices
similar to the ApacheCon travel assistance program that would allow
people to get a hold of such a hardware device (maybe it could even be
personalized with an apache UID if a committer requests such a
device). Look we really could live without dinosaurs such as Google
and the like if we all stand up and try to make a difference and I
think I proofed that with my idea - i.e. the proof is that we are
*NOT* like lemmings who need to fallow each hype :D

Cheers
Daniel

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 4:43 PM, dsh <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'd like to echo what Kevan just said (it kind of relates to the
> webinar thread started by Karan) and I'd like to add that there are
> people like me who simply refuse to get a Google+ account cause it's
> the Nth social network I would have to maintain (those who know me
> really know how thoroughly I tend to maintain my internet presence)
> and cause I don't want to give Google a 3rd chance to finally be
> successful with an attempt to get a share in the social network
> market.
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Kevan Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Karan Malhi wrote:
>>
>>> Mohammad,
>>>
>>> Thanks for initiating this. Seems like everybody has a g+ account
>>> already. Just to clarify, the hangout is for all contributors (current
>>> and prospective) (Its not a committer only stuff).
>>
>> I think you can safely assume that everyone does *not* have a google+ 
>> account. Furthermore, I think you can also assume that not everyone *can* 
>> have a google+ account (even if they wanted one). And then there's the 
>> question of bandwidth for effective use of hangout. All something I'd expect 
>> the community to keep in mind, as use of hangouts is evaluated.
>>
>> I would expect that *anyone* would be allowed to participate: pmc, 
>> committer, contributor, or anyone who's just interested.
>>
>> --kevan
>

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