Hi Kevin,

On Aug 28, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Kevin Sutter wrote:

Craig,
Comments below...

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >wrote:


On Aug 27, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:

The JDO expert group has adopted a user-level API for configuring
FetchGroups at runtime. There is a factory for FetchGroup in the
PersistenceManager and PersistenceManagerFactory, corresponding to
EntityManager and EntityManagerFactory.

I'd like to implement this concept for OpenJPA, and have a few questions
before I start.

Currently there is an Annotation org.apache.openjpa.persistence.FetchGroup that allows an annotation to be defined for a class or field. There are also FetchPlan.java and FetchPlanImpl.java in that same package. The FetchPlan is the interface (not standard) and the FetchPlanImpl is the implementation for
the FetchPlan interface.

So if we want to have an interface representing the FetchGroup how do we avoid the name conflict between the annotation name and the interface name
for FetchGroup?


This name conflict is making me crazy. Why did we put annotations into the
same package as interfaces and implementations?

FetchPlan is an interface but it might also be an annotation in future, along with FetchPlans. These annotations would allow you to define named fetch plans in annotations that could be used for static definition of fetch plans for queries, etc. without needing an API. Sort of the inverse of what
we found useful in FetchGroup.

What if we moved all the annotations currently in
org.apache.openjpa.persistence to org.apache.openjpa.annotations, deprecate
the current annotation definitions in org.apache.openjpa.persistence?


Although I can understand the frustration with the current organization,
moving and deprecating the current annotations would be a major
compatibility issue as we move forward.  Besides the native OpenJPA
applications, we have many other packagers of OpenJPA (IBM, BEA, others?) that have documented the use of OpenJPA annotations. Changing these now
would be disruptive.

Since the use of the annotation would be more common than the interface, I would prefer to separate out the interfaces into a new directory. But, even
that, I'm not thrilled with.

I understand and thought that throwing out a proposal would stimulate some thought.

I really hate all of these options:

creating a new directory in which we put only FetchGroup (the interface) and FetchGroupImpl (the implementation of the interface)

deprecating and breaking existing applications

keeping both interfaces and annotations in the same place

calling FetchGroup something entirely different, although calling it OpenJPAFetchGroup, or JDOFetchGroup might not be a bad idea

Of all the unattractive options, I'd probably vote for the latter (lattest?) (JDOFetchGroup).

Craig


Kevin



Craig



Craig

Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/ jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!



Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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