I think I can explain this, but probably can't fix it.....

I suspect your image is grainy.... PNG-8 in mapserver is (normally) achieved by reducing the 24bit color palette to a very simple default 256 color palette. This means that you don't get a logical choice of what 256 color's you want in your palette. This also means that the true color of a pixel and the "best match" color in the default palette are ;ikely to differ significantly... hence a grainy appearance. When you switch to png24 you avoid this progress... but watch the size of your images.... my png24 256x256 tiles are ~65KB (and unusable)!

Ideally what you want to occur in the compression to 8bit is to analyze the 24bit images and generate a color palette that will give you best results.. this is known as "Color Quantization".........

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_quantization

I'm sorry to say, I don't think mapserver offers this... so I can't offer you an easy solution... but hopefully an understanding of the problem if you want to chase it up further. Try the mapserver guys :)

--AH


re: png being smaller.... I've tried every trick in the book (because I really wanted to use png) and other than say a single flat color, or the most basic of image I can never get png smaller than jpeg. Map's, and in particular "useful" maps typically contain content, and hence multiple colors... consequently png is always bigger for me anyway. I wouldn't always recommend jpeg over png, I'd just look at whats most important to you, quality or size. Hope this was of some value....



Bradley Mclain wrote:
Sorry for the triple reply but I managed to solve it by editing the Mapserver/Untiled.js file to have default image type as png24.

On 7/11/07, *Bradley Mclain * <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Little update which might help shed some light on the matter. I
    saved that particular layer and it is a PNG format
     not PNG24 or jpeg, so somehow OpenLayers request to Mapserver is
    ignoring the new formats.

    I did WMS URL requests to Mapserver and it returns the correct
    formats.


    On 7/11/07, *Bradley Mclain* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

        For some reason this is not working for me, I changed the
        settings in the Mapfile and defined the OUTPUTFORMAT and then
        added the format:'image/png', to my Openlayers folder. I even
        tried changing my mapfile to export as jpeg so as to match
        Openayers but no luck.

        Could it have something to do with that I am using the
        MapServer.Untiled layer function instead of a WMS.Untiled layer?


        On 7/10/07, *Andrew Hughes* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

            Bart's correct... but just be warned.... jpeg is A LOT
            smaller is size than png-24. There's a reason why jpeg is
            the default in OpenLayers.

            --AH


            Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS) wrote:
            OpenLayers uses jpeg by default for WMS layers, so change it in the
            constructor of your WMS.Untiled layer:

            'format':'image/png', i.e.:

            baselayer0 = new OpenLayers.Layer.WMS.Untiled



            ( "Standaard",
"http://test.intranet.rijkswaterstaat.nl/services/geoservices/startkaart?";



             
<http://test.intranet.rijkswaterstaat.nl/services/geoservices/startkaart?>,
            {layers: 'startkaart', 'format':'image/png', 'transparent':'TRUE'},
{'numZoomLevels': 12, 'ratio':1, isBaseLayer: true} );
            Also check you have image/png mapped as a mimetype for PNG24 in your




            Mapserver MAP file (OUTPUTFORMAT section).

            Best regards,
            Bart

            --
            Bart van den Eijnden
            OSGIS, Open Source GIS




            http://www.osgis.nl


            --------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
            Van: Bradley Mclain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
            Naar: OpenLayers ML <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
            Onderwerp: [OpenLayers-Dev] Poor Image Quality
            Datum: 10/07/07 05:07

            I am importing an image as an untiled Mapserver layer into 
OpenLayers and
            it is of extremely good quality but when it shows up in OpenLayers 
it&#39;s
            quality is terrible.The image when viewed through Mapserver is not 
as good
            as the original but it still much better than what it is showing up 
as in




            OpenLayers. I have my Mapserver image format as PNG24.
            Any ideas on what might be causing this and how to fix it?CheersBrad





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