OK, get ready for the new OM :)

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Peter Dähn <[email protected]> wrote:

> sounds good so far... ;-)
>
>
> Am 24.03.2016 um 16:10 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
>> I will add NOTE to the news section regarding new release
>> something like
>>
>> please NOTE this release contains screen-sharing application signed be
>> self-signed certificate due to
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-11384.
>> to use screen-sharing application with modern Java, please add OM site to
>> the list of java security exceptions by running
>> $JAVA_HOME/bin/ControlPanel.
>>
>> I believe this should be enough :)
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Peter Dähn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> ok.. than it need to be communicated somehow and I'm fine with it...
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>> Am 24.03.2016 um 12:04 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> I'm subscribed to JIRA issue (any registered user can *watch* JIRA)
>>>>
>>>> I'm pinging INFRA once a week
>>>>
>>>> and unfortunately no-one have ETA :(
>>>> this is why I raised this topic
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Peter Dähn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If so, how it will be communicated and how log does it take till these
>>>>
>>>>> issue will be fixed (still no answer yet, I think...)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for bothering... ;-)  Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 24.03.2016 um 10:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually install from branch and install release differs:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) release gets additional testing
>>>>>>        1. by developers before cutting release
>>>>>>        2. by community while voting
>>>>>> 2) release is sort of "complete" if you will look at issues fixed, and
>>>>>> features implemented
>>>>>> 3) web-start app is signed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would vote for release "as is" due to currently both development and
>>>>>> "security release" are stalled :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Peter Dähn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for the late response,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already started 3 times... to write this e-mail... ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the difference to install 3.1.1 from branch or a release with
>>>>>>> self
>>>>>>> signed certificates? If I need some features or bugfixes I could
>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> actual branch (maybe recommended rxxxx)-version and I would have an
>>>>>>> java-application with all security-dialogs because of the self signed
>>>>>>> certificate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I am not aware of the mailing-lists I will install a release with
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> restrictions. It need to be communicate very clear somehow, what is
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> difference to former releases and what does it mean.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there is a need to release a new version, than it need to be clear
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> to communicate the restrictions outside the mailing-lists. If there
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> need for a release I would wait. Anyway in both cases we need an
>>>>>>> estimation
>>>>>>> how long it takes to fix this issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 24.03.2016 um 04:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm, we have 23 PMC, and 3 were active on this topic :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We got quorum :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm going to process with releases tonight, please stop me if you
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>> reason :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 3:37 AM, [email protected] <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2016-03-23 22:45 GMT+13:00 Alvaro <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Right now i made a fresh installation of OM 3.1.1 (DropBox)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> on Windows 10 with Oracle java 1.8_74, and doeing it Maxim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> say about ControlPanel-java, it can start the screen sharing
>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>> works fine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...................
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> El mié, 23-03-2016 a las 19:58 +1300, [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah but have you tested with a Windows PC if you can start the
>>>>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sharing application ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On OSx it won't work without going through a number of hacks in
>>>>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it's a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> self signed certificate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-23 19:50 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I believe this comment [1] describes the current situation
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-11384?focusedCommentId=15182057&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15182057
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As I understand (I don't have HipChat log)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> INFRA waiting for Symantec answer (I guess for a long time)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually we are using self-signed version in demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only thing need to done is to run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /opt/jdk/jre/bin/ControlPanel,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> add Om site to the exceptions list (tested with Oracle JDK up to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1.8.0_73)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:00 AM, [email protected] <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did they at least say what's the blocking issue?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I would agree, in that case we go ahead and release it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> caveat. The issue will be that a lot of the new jvm's don not
>>>>>>>>>>> accept
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Java
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> WebStart applications with self signed certificates anymore. I
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> some issues on Mac with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone checked if the self signed certificate for Java
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Webstart
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> works at least on Windows with latest JVM ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-23 15:53 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have contacted them using hipchat (official INFRA channel)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The answer was: no ETA :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is why I have raised this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR, Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (from mobile, sorry for the typos)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2016 01:03, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried to use IRC channel to get a response on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ETA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infra ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23/03/2016, at 3:02 AM, Alvaro <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do it!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ....................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> El mar, 22-03-2016 a las 17:27 +0600, Maxim Solodovnik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you may know our current releases are blocked by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-11384 (no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we can publish our release with screen-sharing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self-signed certificate until INFRA-11384 will be resolved?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This issue is 1 week old and INFRA team can't provide any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estimates on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in might be resolved
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>


-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

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