Cheers

2016-07-13 16:46 GMT+12:00 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>:

> done,
> demo is updated to the latest 3.1.2 (with RTMPS turned off)
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 3:01 AM, [email protected] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Could you please also disable RTMPs on that server for the meeting this
>> Friday ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2016-07-12 17:35 GMT+12:00 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> I'll set up demo on om.alteametasoft.com as soon as it will be ready
>>> and we can check
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 5:30 AM, [email protected] <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cool,
>>>>
>>>> let me try to clone that and see if there is any way I can contribute
>>>> to that.
>>>>
>>>> There was some other discussion last week with Maxim and me around the
>>>> 1:1 versus 1:100 conference calls.
>>>>
>>>> My point is that if 1 user streams to 100 participants, he will 100
>>>> times the upload the stream. There is no magic that will make 1 stream go
>>>> to multiple participants. Maxim said that you and him believe this can be
>>>> done. I don't think so.
>>>> There was some talk around multicast. I don't think that this is that
>>>> simple. There are many different ways for xyz casting, like uni/any/multi
>>>> cast. See for instance:
>>>>
>>>> http://serverfault.com/questions/279482/what-is-the-difference-between-unicast-anycast-broadcast-and-multicast-traffic
>>>>
>>>> But there is no way of doing those modes in webRTC and save upload
>>>> bandwidth. See for instance those answers here:
>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20056683/webrtc-multicast-one-to-many
>>>>
>>>> Which also outlines one possible solution:"A simple solution can be
>>>> peer-to-server model (peer-to-media server-to-all other peers)."
>>>>
>>>> Which is pretty much the same we do right now. And the work you are
>>>> doing now on the native client will be necessary for this.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, I think you guys still want to demo that and I think you still
>>>> think that there is a P2P mode that will not require a server-to-client
>>>> stream.
>>>>
>>>> I think this server to client streaming has a lot of advantages. One is
>>>> also the later potential of re-encoding streams in different qualities. One
>>>> of the modern features of streaming is called "adaptive streaming", which
>>>> will switch the stream depending on the clients bandwidth between different
>>>> quality. This will only be possible with a server side processing of
>>>> streams as you need to be able to provide streams in different quality.
>>>> And also the ability to stream 1 conference to let's say 1000, or
>>>> 5000++ people has been one of the biggest and longest discussed challenges
>>>> of OpenMeetings. Since pretty much the beginning of the project. So heaving
>>>> a scalable solution that works in 1:1 but also is possible to scale in
>>>> 1:1000 scenarios should be a major cornerstone of the future roadmap.
>>>>
>>>> So obviously:
>>>>  - We are still keen on verifying my above thesis around bandwidth
>>>> consumption
>>>>  - This is a long road to go and we have to go one step at a time
>>>>
>>>> So I would be keen on trying some demo verifications around running the
>>>> previous prototype with more then one viewer and monitor the bandwidth.
>>>>
>>>> And then, in case my theory is right we quickly advance in to how we
>>>> can utilise the work you are doing to come to a server-to-client streaming
>>>> where 1 client runs on the server acting as a kind of proxy to balance the
>>>> bandwidth.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sebastian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-07-12 7:14 GMT+12:00 Dmitriy - <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>>>
>>>>> You can find it here - https://github.com/Dima00782/OMStreamSaver.
>>>>> I upload the webrtc library part and the client. I've found the client
>>>>> in the Internet, but It has a Apache Licence 2. I think that this client 
>>>>> is
>>>>> more close to our finished version of native API.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm starting to remove unnecessary parts of the client - qt, gui and
>>>>> others but only locally. I think I can demonstrate something soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the long reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 7:49 AM, [email protected] <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dima,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as for the native webRTC code investigation: Is there any code to
>>>>>> look at yet?
>>>>>> Can you put it somewhere on Github or so?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2016-07-08 3:34 GMT+12:00 Dmitriy - <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Changes for this week:
>>>>>>> - add rooms concepts
>>>>>>> - move clients code to separate entity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also I continue investigate to webRTC natives.
>>>>>>> Future plans are the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dmitry Bezheckov.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dmitry Bezheckov.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> [email protected]
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>



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