I created an etherpad to start to collect ideas:
http://notes.openmrs.org/limited-patient-access-module-planning

-Darius

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Friedman, Roger (CDC/CGH/DGHA) (CTR) <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Rowan, Joaquim –****
>
>     This may be a place where people don’t really want what they wish for.
> At the conference, I was at a session where Shaun Grannis made a
> presentation related to this and its implications on health info exchange
> architecture.****
>
>     Let’s suppose we have a district hospital with 5 satellite clinics, all
> of which share a single OpenMRS instance.  And let’s say we have some
> sub-locations, like the HIV-STD clinics at the satellites and district, and
> the psych ward at the district, created to help us isolate out particularly
> sensitive records.  Let’s take an ANC patient, we want to find out her HIV
> status or even whether she’s been tested, but we can’t because of the
> restriction on HIV data.  Let’s take a person brought in with dementia, we
> can’t find out if it’s HIV-related or previously diagnosed because that data
> doesn’t cross location boundaries.  Let’s take the victim of an industrial
> accident brought to the district ER, the hospital can’t even look at his
> records from one of the clinics to find out his drug allergies.  Let’s take
> a data clerk, s/he can’t run the monthly report of HIV test results.  Let’s
> take the system admin, s/he can’t look at anything, even via MySQL, we
> probably have to encrypt the data.****
>
>     So let’s change the rules, let’s suppose individual users are given the
> right to access a particular patient’s records for a limited period of time,
> with a limited number of people designated to grant these rights (records
> proxy at the primary point of service).  This has been implemented in some
> places, Belize for example.  But there are still a couple of problems, both
> of which were identified by Shaun.  One is the inherent difficulty of
> finding the proxy when needed.  Another is the problem of using the data for
> public health – do we expect the proxy at each satellite to go through each
> patient and temporarily give access rights to me as regional epi?****
>
>     Maybe we need to put the shoe on the other foot.  Grant all users
> rights to all data, but have any sensitive page log who visited when seeking
> data on which patient.  Then these logs (or summaries thereof) are reviewed
> by management every month and privilege abusers are fired.****
>
> Saludos, Roger  ****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Blaya,
> Joaquin Andres
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:37 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [OPENMRS-DEV] Location based patient access permissions****
>
>  ** **
>
> I'm one of those extremely interested in this, and would be happy to be on
> a call. My additional request would be to put this into the cohort builder
> where each health center would view only their patient searches/saved
> cohorts and also could only see their patients if they asked for all
> patients.
>
> Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Darius Jazayeri [[email protected]]
> *Received:* Thursday, 25 Aug 2011, 16:31
> *To:* [email protected] [
> [email protected]]
> *Subject:* Re: [OPENMRS-DEV] Location based patient access permissions****
>
> Hi Rowan, ****
>
> ** **
>
> You're correct that this is pretty straightforward to do with AOP, although
> you almost definitely need to take some kind of shortcut to make it perform
> adequately to limit the patient-search-by-name method called frequently via
> ajax.****
>
> ** **
>
> (Though, what defines the patient's location and the user's location? For
> the patient it could be an assigned location via a PersonAttribute, or it
> could be "Any encounter ever". What about for the user?)****
>
> ** **
>
> The Restrict By Role module does a more general version of this, but was
> written back in the days of OpenMRS 1.2 or 1.3, and really should be retired
> in favor of something more modern.****
>
> ** **
>
> I think this is one of the most commonly requested OpenMRS features. It's
> also a huge task to implement in a general way in core, but I think it would
> be very valuable to write the module you're describing. Perhaps we can
> organize a discussion or call among interested people to see if there's an
> easy-to-implement approach that will solve the 90% use case.****
>
> ** **
>
> I could imagine building ~ 5 different filters that cover many use cases,
> and that can be individually enabled/disabled in a config page.****
>
> ** **
>
> -Darius****
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Rowan Seymour <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> Something that's needed in Rwanda is a away to limit access to patient
> records by providers based on location. Seems like this would be pretty easy
> to do via aop. A very simple version would just check that the provider is
> from the same location. A more sophisticated version would allow providers
> to be assigned to patients from multiple locations. You could define which
> roles are subject to this location requirement and which aren't. ****
>
> ** **
>
> I'm sure I've heard people discussing this before but I can't find any such
> modules in the repository... I'll put something together if there isn't
> something I'm missing here.****
>
> ** **
>
> Rowan****
>  ------------------------------
>
> Click here to 
> unsubscribe<[email protected]?body=SIGNOFF%20openmrs-devel-l>from 
> OpenMRS Developers' mailing list
> ****
>
> ** **
>  ------------------------------
>
> Click here to 
> unsubscribe<[email protected]?body=SIGNOFF%20openmrs-devel-l>from 
> OpenMRS Developers' mailing list
> ****
>  ------------------------------
>
> Click here to 
> unsubscribe<[email protected]?body=SIGNOFF%20openmrs-devel-l>from 
> OpenMRS Developers' mailing list
> ****
>  ------------------------------
> Click here to 
> unsubscribe<[email protected]?body=SIGNOFF%20openmrs-devel-l>from 
> OpenMRS Developers' mailing list
>

_________________________________________

To unsubscribe from OpenMRS Developers' mailing list, send an e-mail to 
[email protected] with "SIGNOFF openmrs-devel-l" in the  body (not 
the subject) of your e-mail.

[mailto:[email protected]?body=SIGNOFF%20openmrs-devel-l]

Reply via email to