Isaac, I have not heard from you on this yet. I would like to use the wiki page as a guide, but I need to know that it is accurate. The email you sent before describes a different set of criteria than what the wiki page says. Can you please let me know which one is correct? Thanks!
Jeremy Keiper OpenMRS Core Developer AMPATH / IU-Kenya Support On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Jeremy Keiper <[email protected]> wrote: > Isaac, if I understand the wiki page we are still relying on at least one > WHO Stage (1-4) for all PEDS and ADULT patients. Is this correct? From > your email above, it seems there are other concepts involved (CDC levels) > and we can ignore WHO Stage in some circumstances. Is the wiki up to date, > or is it still in progress? > > > Jeremy Keiper > OpenMRS Core Developer > AMPATH / IU-Kenya Support > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Yeung, Ada K. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That’s great, Isaac!**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Thanks for verifying it with Dr. Nyandiko and updating in on the wiki!*** >> * >> >> ** ** >> >> --Ada**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Isaac Wainaina [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Thursday, November 03, 2011 4:17 AM >> >> *To:* Yeung, Ada K. >> *Cc:* sikuku evallyne; Jeremy Keiper >> *Subject:* Re: FW: MOH Stuff**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Hi All,**** >> >> **** >> >> For Peds it is now clearly summarrized by Dr Nyandiko as follows;*** >> * >> >> **** >> >> - Children less than 18months with one Positive DNA are eligible**** >> - Children above 18months with WHO III or WHO IV or CDC Category B or >> C are eligible regardless of their CD4**** >> - Children between 18months and 5years with CD4 percent less than 25% >> are eligible regardless of their CDC or WHO staging**** >> - Children between 5 to 12 years with CD4 percent less than 20% are >> eligible regardless of their CDC or WHO staging**** >> - Children above 12 years with a CD4 count less than 350 or CD4% less >> than 20 % are eligible.**** >> >> For Adults it remaims the same as what is in wiki .I also asked about >> use TLC for determination of eligibility for ARVs and Kipsang (Co module2) >> comfirmed that they only use WHO and CD4 to make decision they dont depend >> on TLC.**** >> >> **** >> >> Welcome ** ** >> >> Isaac**** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Yeung, Ada K. <[email protected]> wrote:* >> *** >> >> Thank you so much for following up this with Dr. Nyandiko, Isaac! **** >> >> **** >> >> --Ada**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* Isaac Wainaina [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Saturday, October 29, 2011 10:47 AM >> *To:* Yeung, Ada K. >> *Cc:* sikuku evallyne; Jeremy Keiper **** >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: FW: MOH Stuff**** >> >> **** >> >> Hi all >> I will update new definitions on Monday .I am tracing a document that Dr >> Nyadinko had approve for peds eligibility at the same I will be getting >> clarification on TLC limit or range that should be used for adults it okay . >> Thanks all. >> Isaac**** >> >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Yeung, Ada K. <[email protected]> wrote: >> **** >> >> Great! Thank you so much, Evallyne and Isaac!**** >> >> **** >> >> --Ada**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* sikuku evallyne [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:39 AM >> *To:* Yeung, Ada K.; Jeremy Keiper >> *Cc:* Isaac Wainaina >> *Subject:* Re: FW: MOH Stuff**** >> >> **** >> >> That's right Ada, the different criteria for eligibility should be output >> into r if true based on the definition provided on the WIKI. I will ensure >> the definition on the wiki for r is updated to reflect what is required in >> the register.**** >> >> Thanks**** >> >> Eva**** >> >> **** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* "Yeung, Ada K." <[email protected]> >> *To:* Jeremy Keiper <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* esimuli <[email protected]>; Isaac Wainaina <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:07 PM >> *Subject:* RE: FW: MOH Stuff**** >> >> Jer,**** >> >> **** >> >> My understanding is as follows (Evallyne and Isaac can chime in):**** >> >> **** >> >> If it’s through clinical staging only, it should display the WHO Stage. >> **** >> >> **** >> >> If it’s through CD4 only, it should display CD4 Count/CD4%.**** >> >> **** >> >> If it’s through clinical and CD4, it should display WHO Stage and CD4 >> Count/CD4 %.**** >> >> **** >> >> If it’s through clinical with TLC, it should display WHO Stage and Total >> Lymphocyte Count.**** >> >> **** >> >> --Ada**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* Jeremy Keiper [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:44 AM >> *To:* Yeung, Ada K. >> *Cc:* esimuli; Isaac Wainaina >> *Subject:* Re: FW: MOH Stuff**** >> >> **** >> >> I'm okay with the definition of the column, just need to know what should >> be displayed. So, if the eligibility is based on "WHO STAGE 1 PEDS and >> CD4, BY FACS < 500 and HIV DNA PCR = POSITIVE", what do I return as the >> value for that column? Clinical + CD4? I need to know that for every >> scenario.**** >> >> **** >> >> Attached is a PDF of the decision flowchart as far as I can understand it >> right now. Hopefully this is accurate. >> >> Jeremy Keiper >> OpenMRS Core Developer >> AMPATH / IU-Kenya Support**** >> >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Yeung, Ada K. <[email protected]> wrote: >> **** >> >> Evallyne,**** >> >> Could you please make sure that particular column (r) is updated in a >> timely manner? Jeremy needs it to finish programming that column. Thanks! >> **** >> >> --Ada**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* Yeung, Ada K. >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:28 AM >> *To:* 'Jeremy Keiper' >> *Cc:* Isaac Wainaina >> *Subject:* RE: MOH Stuff**** >> >> **** >> >> Jer,**** >> >> **** >> >> According to that column definition from that report, it means you will >> need to get patient eligibility based on**** >> >> **** >> >> Clinical only - WHO Stage**** >> >> CD4 - CD4 Count or CD4 %**** >> >> Clinical+CD4 – WHO Stage and CD4 Count/CD4 %**** >> >> Clincial+TLC – WHO Stage and Total Lymphocyte Count**** >> >> **** >> >> Isaac is the author for that column, he’s copied on this email so that he >> can further explain. Thanks!**** >> >> **** >> >> --Ada**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* Jeremy Keiper [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:15 AM >> *To:* Yeung, Ada K. >> *Subject:* Re: MOH Stuff**** >> >> **** >> >> Ah, but it doesn't say what the column should have in it for R) Why >> Eligible. I can say whether the person is or is not, and I have the >> observations, encounter, etc ... but what do I return to be printed in that >> column? >> >> Jeremy Keiper >> OpenMRS Core Developer >> AMPATH / IU-Kenya Support**** >> >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Yeung, Ada K. <[email protected]> wrote: >> **** >> >> Oh, you can get it here then >> http://wiki.ampath.or.ke/display/data/Comprehensive+Care+Clinic+Pre+ART+Register+MOH+361A >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* Jeremy Keiper [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:39 AM >> *To:* Yeung, Ada K. >> *Subject:* Re: MOH Stuff**** >> >> **** >> >> I think it is/was that one, or at least that's the one I was thinking of >> ... but of course it's not the one I'm looking for. I don't know if we >> have one that specifies MOH 361A. >> >> Jeremy Keiper >> OpenMRS Core Developer >> AMPATH / IU-Kenya Support**** >> >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Yeung, Ada K. <[email protected]> wrote: >> **** >> >> Is it this one? **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Isaac . K. Wainaina >> DMC AMPATH**** >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Isaac . K. Wainaina >> DMC AMPATH**** >> > > _________________________________________ To unsubscribe from OpenMRS Developers' mailing list, send an e-mail to [email protected] with "SIGNOFF openmrs-devel-l" in the body (not the subject) of your e-mail. [mailto:[email protected]?body=SIGNOFF%20openmrs-devel-l]
