Any code/processes putting HL7 messages *into* the outbound queue doesn't
need to be concerned with destination.  Any code/processes pulling data *out
* of the outbound queue – which should be separate from the processes
loading the outbound queue – will need to consider the destination.

There are two potential approaches: push or pull.  A push-based approach
would be a process in OpenMRS that takes entries out of the outbound queue,
considers their destination, and sends the messages to an external
system/folder based on the destination.  A pull-based approach would be to
expose the outbound queue through a web service (with appropriate privilege
checks), allowing an external process to pull items out of the outbound
queue.

I would favor the pull-based approach, since it doesn't try to pre-define
how messages will be handled/directed.  If we want to make a simple module
to use the web service and place messages into a folder or to send them to
TCP port with basic ack/nack support, that's fine.  Larger installations
would probably install an interface engine (e.g., Mirth) to pull outbound
messages.

-Burke

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Ben Wolfe <[email protected]> wrote:

> The 99% use-case is to send it to a port or url on another server.  And
> that should be automatic.  The admin should not have to go in and send off
> every one of them.
>
> You could add in a feature to download messages.  This would help an admin
> debug an issue and/or download a bunch of messages and send them to someone
> to analyze if its possible to send to someone else.
>
> Ben
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Thothathri Srinivasan <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>> Sure, I'll just put up the code later today, as a patch again, and I'm
>> updating the wiki docs right away.
>> Okay, so I'll send it just as the hl7 text message, and not send objects
>> or anything else to other systems.
>>
>> Roger, yes, I was under the impression that sending the HL7 Messages over
>> a network to a destination was also a major concern. Now I understand that
>> generating them is what interests us more.
>> So we have used HAPI to convert patient details into HL7 ADTA28 and
>> ORUR01 messages and save it into the db.
>> We thought we would modify the jsp page and have an option to send that
>> message to destinations as an option if the admin user wants to. I
>> understand that we might be interested to send it to another app on the
>> same server, and other cases which might not be satisfied by simply having
>> an option to send it over to a destination over the network. Should we
>> include a few more cases like writing the details to a file, for instance?
>> Any suggestions on how to go about this? Please let us know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Thothathri
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Ben Wolfe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The messages can just go out as the text hl7 message.  Thats all you
>>> want to send, don't send our objects or xml to other systems.
>>>
>>> Can you link to the most up-to-date code review so we can see your
>>> code/tables/etc?  (Or link to wiki docs that you have created)
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Thothathri Srinivasan <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> So I've used HAPI to convert into HL7 Message formats (ADT and ORU),
>>>> and stored these details into a table called HL7OutQueue in the database.
>>>> I have also created a HL7OutQueueDestination that has the destination
>>>> details.
>>>> I thought that we could serialize the objects in the HL7OutQueue table
>>>> (which would have transient data members too), and then send it over the
>>>> network to the destination from the HL7OutQueueDestination table.
>>>> Isn't this what we have to do to send the HL7 messages to a destination?
>>>> Please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Thothathri
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Ben Wolfe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Serializing and sending to a destination?  What do you mean by that?
>>>>> Can you give you the steps in your processing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Thothathri Srinivasan <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Ben,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We had talked to you a few days back about what we intended to do
>>>>>> about the HL7 Output Messages module.
>>>>>> We tried using Mirth like you had mentioned, but then decided to
>>>>>> implement the conversion of details into HL7 ADTA28 and ORUR01 messages
>>>>>> using HAPI, and then serializing and sending it over to a destination.
>>>>>> Please let us know if that's fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Thothathri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thothathri Srinivasan
>>>>>> Graduate Student in Computer Science,
>>>>>> *NC STATE* UNIVERSITY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thothathri Srinivasan
>>>> Graduate Student in Computer Science,
>>>> *NC STATE* UNIVERSITY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thothathri Srinivasan
>> Graduate Student in Computer Science,
>> *NC STATE* UNIVERSITY
>>
>>
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