Thanks for the reply.

Seems like a reasonable suggestion that learning maven and git from
the command line is a good way to go, even if you switch back to IDE
plugins later on.   Coming at both from an eclipse perspective -- when
you move to the command line, the rationales/workflows behind both
aren't abstracted by UIs and become a lot more clear.

Adn BTW, I like this git tutorial:
http://progit.org/book/

d

On 2/11/12, Koustubh Sinkar <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> It has been really interesting to read this conversation about your pain
> from moving the openMRS version control system from svn to git.
>
> So before I proceed, a brief introduction of myself. I am a Web developer
> (Ruby on Rails) and have been meaning to try out the OpenMRS for a some
> time now but unable to do it due to lack of time. Anyways, the first
> version control that I seriously ever used in my life was git. I had tried
> svn before but it was only limited to svn co <url_to_svn_repo>. But the
> organization that I currently work for used git (and we still use it) when
> I joined them and I have been quite comfortable using it. Before I share
> with you more about my git experience, let me answer  the one query that
> struck me out and which I think is worth answering.
>
> What do you do if your remote branch has moved ahead and you already have
> made some local changes?
>
> You stash your local changes using
>
> $ git stash
>
> and then pull your remote branch
>
> $ git pull origin master
>
> and the just pop your stashed changes
>
> $ git stash pop
>
>
> Now at this stage you might have conflicts or you might not have; depending
> on the changes that have happened on your local branch and the remote repo.
> You can resolve those conflicts easily as they are listed as merge
> conflicts that git is itself not able to resolve.
>
> Before you move your svn repo to git setup please answer the following
> questions to yourselves:-
>
> Q 1. Are you going to administer your git remote repo yourself or you going
> for a hosted solution?
>
> There are excellent solutions for either way you want to go. If you are
> yourselves going to administer the server where you host the remote repo
> please consider using gitolite for administration purposes. It is an
> excellent tool.
>
> If you are thinking for hosted solutions for git, you have
> http://www.github.com (which is the most popular), you have
> http://www.gitorious.org (the source code of gitorious is available so even
> you can host gitorious on your own servers but then again someone will have
> to maintain the gitorious app on it; ). Then there are also
> http://code.google.com and http://www.bitbucket.org which offer git hosting.
>
> If you really want to enjoy and understand git, use it only from the
> command line and avoid using the gui tools, atleast in the beginning. I am
> a Linux user and it will be difficult for me to empathize with Window's
> users and the problems they face; which can of course be solved by
> switching to Linux.
>
> Here I list a few resources to ease your way from svn to git
>
> http://tom.preston-werner.com/2009/05/19/the-git-parable.html
>
> you can also search for the git community book and read it for advanced
> techniques like git bisect and so on, so forth.
>
> I hope I have been of help and have helped dispel your doubts and fears
> about using git.
>
> Regards,
> Koustubh Sinkar
> कौस्तुभ सिनकर <http://www.about.me/ksinkar>
>
>
> On 11 February 2012 22:40, Mark Goodrich <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'd say that I found Git slightly more complicated when it comes to
>> mimicking svn functionality, but significantly more complicated when
>> trying
>> to do more complex operations.  Of course, this is because Git allows you
>> to do more, but it definitely should be noted that there will be learning
>> curve, and that should be taken into account when deciding if/when we want
>> to migrate the core code... even after I thought I understood conceptually
>> how I was supposed to be using Git, I ran into some trouble.
>>
>> One thing I wanted to do for the sprint was try the model Burke mentioned
>> in a recent email where all developers wouldn't need to have push
>> privilege
>> to the master repo... but rather would make pull requests of the master
>> repo.  The sprint seemed like a great time to test this functionality out.
>>  But when I spent some time the weekend before the sprint trying to write
>> up instructions on how to do this, I wasn't able to figure out the correct
>> workflow exactly... I WAS able to create my own remote fork of the
>> htmlformentry master branch, check that out, make changes, push the
>> changes
>> back up to Git, and then make a pull request to the htmlformentry master
>> from my remote fork... but what I WASN'T able to do was to figure the
>> right
>> workflow for merging in any changes from the master repo before making my
>> pull request.  So I decided to pass on trying to having people do it that
>> way and just gave people push access to the main repo because I didn't
>> want
>> to spend a lot of of the sprint working out Git issues with understandably
>> frustrated developers and/or having to resolve a lot of merge issues
>> myself.  I'm sure this IS possible, but my point is we shouldn't assume
>> that it is trivia to learn how to do... and if we do have a university
>> call, it would probably be best led by someone other than me who can
>> actually explain how to do it... :)
>>
>> Also, I will note that when I did run into conflicts, conflict resolution
>> seemed pretty similar to conflict resolution with svn... i.e., I didn't
>> notice any great improvement.
>>
>> And finally, the Egit plugin, while not horrible, did have a tendency to
>> throw exceptions with non-helpful error messages at times.  I tended to
>> use
>> a combination of Egit and the Windows Git GUI to work with Git, and used
>>  Git at the command line when I was trying to figure out more complex
>> operations.
>>
>> Anyway, I don't know if that came off as negative.  I'm certainly not
>> anti-Git.  If I was starting a new project, I'd most likely use Git over
>> SVN, and would be up for moving OpenMRS core to Git.  However, just wanted
>> to point out that there will a learning curve and some bumps in the road,
>> so we should consider the pain and the opportunity cost of migration vs.
>> the benefits.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Mark
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darius Jazayeri [
>> [email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 6:15 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [OPENMRS-DEV] HTML Form Entry Sprint
>>
>> I found git to be slightly more complicated than svn, but this is the
>> first time I've really used it, so that's to be expected.
>>
>> I didn't ever create a branch, or switch between branches, since the only
>> big ticket I worked on was in a separate module. (And I'm sure  that if I
>> had I'd be singing Git's praises.)
>>
>> One nice thing is that it lets us avoid checking in the eclipse-specific
>> project files, and keeping those local.
>>
>> I ran into an annoyance with the EGit plugin--the first time I did a push,
>> I typed the wrong password, and it has remembered it ever since, and I
>> couldn't figure out how to make it forget. So I haven't been able to push
>> from eclipse. Instead I've been using the github osx app, which is quite
>> nice.
>>
>> -Darius
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Mark Goodrich <[email protected]<mailto:
>> [email protected]>> wrote:
>> We have reached the end of the two-week HTML Form Entry sprint.
>>
>> First of all, I’d like to thank everyone for their hard work and
>> participation… we made it though more tickets than I had anticipated, and
>> I
>> enjoyed collaborating with everybody.  We have closed a total of 25
>> tickets
>> over the past two weeks, and should be closing a few more in the coming
>> week.
>>
>> To talk about next steps… we still have 8 “in progress” tickets and 4 in
>> the “post-commit” stage.  Some of these are on my plate, and I plan to
>> continue working on them next week.  For anybody who still is assigned to
>> a
>> ticket that is “In Progress”, please let me know if you think you’ll still
>> be able to finish the ticket, and, if not, what work remains .
>>
>> For those of you awaiting the next release of the module, version 1.9, my
>> target is to release it sometime near the end up of week of February 27th.
>>  The delay is because  I’m going to be out of the office for significant
>> parts of the next two weeks, and because I’d like our ace volunteer
>> tester,
>> Cordt Byrne, to do some testing further testing before release, and he is
>> only in the office once a week.
>>
>> Also, if any of the developers would like to share their experience
>> working with Git, that would be much appreciates as we debate whether we
>> want to migrate OpenMRS core from subversion to Git.
>>
>> Thanks again everyone…
>>
>> Take care,
>> Mark
>>
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