Sounds good.  What separates category from type?  Is it just that we don't
want to think of some things being multi-typed?

-Burke

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Darius Jazayeri
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I'm trying to find an approach that will provide us some code reuse, and
> not slow down the reporting module's development too much. I think the use
> case for tags is sufficiently different from what reporting needs that we
> shouldn't try to shoehorn them into the same thing. Also, I think that
> "category" fits better than "type" for what we're talking about in
> reporting.
>
> So, perhaps we can evolve towards having two modules that provide:
>
>    1. tag/label
>       - folksonomy-style, whose value is just a String
>       - just needs a single object_tag table
>       - Supports trivial creation, like addTag(Object, String)
>       - Do we need a "boolean shared" which indicates whether it's only
>       visible to the creator or to other users too?
>    2. category
>       - pre-defined, whose value is an OpenmrsMetadata
>       - needs a category table and an object_category mapping table
>       - eventually supports localization a la metadata-localization
>
> I feel like the first pass at the "category" module code can get written
> in the reporting module for convenience now. But I hope we can code review
> that and pull it into its own module before releasing it within reporting...
>
> -Darius
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Burke Mamlin <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012, Darius Jazayeri wrote:
>>
>>> For the record, I'd be fine implementing this in a mode and calling it
>>> something other than "tagging".
>>>
>>> @Burke, what if we called these "labels", rather than "types"? (I.e.
>>> tags are for folksonomy, but labels are for categorization.) So far
>>> everywhere we've used type in the OpenMRS core has been singular (I recall
>>> EncounterType, OrderType, VisitType).
>>>
>>>
>>  Label is synonymous with tag; in fact, I've often thought that we might
>> choose (as Atlassian did) to use the term "Label" in the UI in place of
>> "Tag"... so, please don't use label.
>>
>> An alternative term for type would be "category" -- both are predefined
>> groupings.  Since we already have a precedent for these, using "type", I
>> would favor either continuing it.  I would also prefer that we follow the
>> convention of singular vs plural for consistency.  The only plural we've
>> used is users, because "user" is a reserved word in SQL.  The fact that you
>> want to assign multiple is independent of the object itself.
>>
>> More than anything, I'm trying to promote consistency, both for users'
>> and developers' sakes.  In this case, avoiding a question like "why do I
>> have to predefine tags for reporting when I don't predefine my tags
>> anywhere else.". As I mentioned earlier, if we can model as way to control
>> tag creation privileges per domain object, then Mike may find tagging a
>> valid option (limiting who can create new tags as opposed to creating a
>> separate tag management screen where tags must be created before they can
>> be used).
>>
>> -Burke
>>
>>
>> -Darius
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Burke Mamlin 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>> Why not create report_type and allow reports to have more than one type?
>>>
>>> -Burke
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Friedman, Roger (CDC/CGH/DGHA) (CTR) <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Because we're in modules and have to use either attributes or tags and
>>> only tags have allowed many-to-many.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Burke
>>> Mamlin
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 11:30 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OPENMRS-DEV] [OPENMRS-JIRA] (REPORT-49) Add a mechanism
>>> for tagging / categorizing reports and other reporting elements****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> In that case, why not follow our convention of using "type" to create
>>> pre-defined categories for things, saving tagging (across OpenMRS) for
>>> user-driven folksonomies (i.e., leave tags to function like tags in
>>> blogging or labels in Confluence/JIRA)?****
>>>
>>> -Burke****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Friedman, Roger (CDC/CGH/DGHA) (CTR) <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:****
>>>
>>> I agree with Mike that we may be talking about two different use cases
>>> -- one Burke's folksonomy and the other a tool for subsetting large lists
>>> for use by a module.  My use cases are more like Mike's -- identifying
>>> which locations are labs  or which locations have personnel managed by this
>>> instance of HR; with the divorce between providers and users, I think we'll
>>> see more tagging of providers for the roles they perform (or use of
>>> attributes for this purpose, which is equivalent as I've previously
>>> noted).  I don't think Andy will pee in his pants if we use a concept for
>>> these purposes.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Michael
>>> Seaton
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:23 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OPENMRS-DEV] [OPENMRS-JIRA] (REPORT-49) Add a mechanism
>>> for tagging / categorizing reports and other reporting elements****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Thanks Burke,
>>>
>>> I agree that we are close - I like your suggestions, but I think we are
>>> envisioning different use cases.  My primary concern is not in supporting a
>>> folksonomy, making it easy
>>>
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