But i think It is the same no? I Mean. ..I will pass all the content as one
sentence. So in this case the "the" word will be tagged the same.

The problem in this case is that i need to create a tagger model too...

Il 26/Ago/2016 20:14, "Russ, Daniel (NIH/CIT) [E]" <[email protected]> ha
scritto:

> The POSTaggerME uses tokenized sentences. In your example, both cases have
> 2 sentences. sentence 1=My name is Damiano.  sentence 2=My surname is
> Porta..
>
> POSTaggerME tagger=…
> tagger.tag(new String[]{ “My”,”name”,”is”,”Damiano”});
>
> Daniel Russ, Ph.D.
> Staff Scientist, Office of Intramural Research
> Center for Information Technology
> National Institutes of Health
> U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
> 12 South Drive
> Bethesda,  MD 20892-5624
>
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Damiano Porta <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Hmmm why?
> If i use the postagger for:
> "My name is Damiano. My surname is Porta"
>
> OR separate:
>
> My name is Damiano.
> My surname is Porta.
>
> I think the tags will be the same, no?
>
> Il 26/Ago/2016 18:24, "Russ, Daniel (NIH/CIT) [E]" <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> ha
> scritto:
>
> If you want to use the part of speech (from the POSTaggerME) as a feature,
> you will need sentences.
>
> Daniel Russ, Ph.D.
> Staff Scientist, Office of Intramural Research
> Center for Information Technology
> National Institutes of Health
> U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
> 12 South Drive
> Bethesda,  MD 20892-5624
>
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Damiano Porta <[email protected]<
> mailto:[email protected]><mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>
> Thanks Joern!
> If i have understood you correctly ...
> IF i do not need relation between sentences i can skip the sentences
> detection right?
>
> Il 26/Ago/2016 16:33, "Joern Kottmann" <[email protected]<mailto:kot
> [email protected]><mailto:kot
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> ha scritto:
>
> The name finder has the concept of "adaptive data" in the feature
> generation. The feature generators can remember things from previous
> sentences and use it to generate features based on it. Usually that can
> help with the recognition rate if you have names that are repeated.  You
> can tweak this to your data, or just pass in the entire document.
>
> Jörn
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Damiano Porta <[email protected]<
> mailto:[email protected]><
> mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
> Yes I can train a good model (sure It will takes a lot of time), i have
> 30k
> resumes. So the "data" isnt a problem.
> I thought about many things, i am also creating a custom features
> generator, with dictionary too (for names) and regex for Birthday,  then
> the machine learning will look at their contexts.
> So now i need to separate the sentences to create a custom model.
> At this point i will not try with one per line CV.
>
> Il 26/Ago/2016 15:10, "Russ, Daniel (NIH/CIT) [E]" <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> ha
> scritto:
>
> Hi Damiano,
>  I am not sure that the NameFinder will be effective as-is for you.  Do
> you have training data (and I mean a lot of training data)?  You need to
> consider what feature are useful in your case.  You might consider a
> feature such as line number on the page (since people tend to put their
> name on the top or second line), maybe the font-size.  You can add a
> dictionary of common names and have a feature “inDictionary”. You will
> have
> to use your domain knowledge to help you here.
>
> For birthday you may want to consider using regex to pick out dates.
> Then look at the context around the date (words before/after, remove
> graduated or if another date just before) or maybe years before present
> year (if you are looking at resumes, you probably won’t find any 5 year
> olds or 200 year olds.
>
> Daniel Russ, Ph.D.
> Staff Scientist, Office of Intramural Research
> Center for Information Technology
> National Institutes of Health
> U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
> 12 South Drive
> Bethesda,  MD 20892-5624
>
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 5:57 AM, Damiano Porta <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]><mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>><
> mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:
> [email protected]>>> wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel!
>
> Thank you so much for your opinion.
> It makes perfectly sense. But i am still a bit confused about the length
> of
> the sentences.
> In a resume there are many names, dates etc etc. So my doubt is regarding
> the structure of the sentences because they follow specific patterns
> sometimes.
>
> For example i need to extract the personal name, (Who wrote the resume)
> the
> Birthday etc etc.
>
> As You know there are many names and dates inside a resume so i thought
> about to write the entire resume as sentence to also train the "position"
> less or more of the entities. If i "decompose" all the resume into
> sentences i will lose this information. No?
>
> Damiano
>
> Il 25/Ago/2016 16:26, "Russ, Daniel (NIH/CIT) [E]" <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]>> ha
> scritto:
>
> Hi Damiano,
>
>   Everyone can feel feel to correct my ignorance but I view the the
> name finder as follows.
>
>   I look at it as walking down the sentence and classifying words as
> “NOT IN NAME”  until I hit the start of a name than it is “START NAME”,
> Followed by “STILL IN NAME” until “NOT IN NAME”.  Take the sentence “Did
> John eat the stew”.  Starting with the first word in the sentence decide
> what are the odds that the first word starts a name (given that it is the
> first word happens to be “Did” in a sentence, with a capital but not all
> caps) starts a person’s name.  Then go to then next word in the sentence.
> If the first word was not in a name, what are the odds that the second
> word
> starts a name (given that the previous word did not start a name, the
> word
> starts with a capital (but not all capital), the word is John, and the
> previous word is “Did”).  If it decides that we are starting a name at
> “John”, we are now looking for the end.  What are the odds that “eat” is
> part of the name given that [“Did”: was not part of the name, was
> capitalized] and that [“John”: was the first word in the name, was
> capitalized].   You are essentially classifying [Did <- OTHER] [John
> <-START] [eat<-OTHER] [the<-OTHER] [stew<-OTHER].  If it was “Did John
> Smith eat the stew”.  You would have [Did <- OTHER] [John
> <-START][Smith<-IN] [eat<-OTHER] [the<-OTHER] [stew<-OTHER].  There are
> other features other than just word, previous word, and the shape (first
> letter capitalized, all letters capitalized).  I think the name finder
> uses
> part of speech also.
>
>
>  So you see that it is not a name lookup table, but dependent on the
> previous classification of words earlier in the sentence.  Therefore, you
> must have sentences. Does that help?
> Daniel
>
>
> Daniel Russ, Ph.D.
> Staff Scientist, Office of Intramural Research
> Center for Information Technology
> National Institutes of Health
> U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
> 12 South Drive
> Bethesda,  MD 20892-5624
>
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Damiano Porta <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]><mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>><
> mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:
> [email protected]>><mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:
> [email protected]><mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
>
> Hello everybody!
>
> Could someone explain why should I separate each sentence of my documents
> to train my models?
> My documents are like resume/cv and the sentences can be very different.
> For example a sentence could also be :
>
> 1. Name: John
> 2. Surname: travolta
>
> Etc etc
> So my question is. What is the problem if i train ny models
> (namefinder,tokenizer) with the complete resume/cv one per line?
>
> Could It be a problem?
> In this case when i will like to tokenize the resume and doing the NER i
> will simply pass the complete resume text skiping the "sentences
> detection"
> process.
>
> Thanks for your opinion in advance!
>
> Best
> Damiano
>
>

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