On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:31 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Kevin Grignon
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Rob,
>> 
>> Beyond functional test and unit testing, can we perform some system
>> testing, based on core usage scenarios?
>> 
> 
> 
> How we divide things is somewhat arbitrary but I think this kind of
> scenario testing is most typically a product design function.  For
> example, you could the some of the same kind of testing with a paper
> prototype.
> 
> But one idea, if you want to push the UX/design side of this forward
> is to follow the model we're doing with QA and Localization:
> 
> 1) Ask yourself, if in 1 week you could have 5 new UX volunteers, of
> various skill levels, what could they do *now*?
> 
> 2) Prepare one or more pages on the website or wiki that list things
> they could get involved in.
> 
> 3) Since most would be new to Apache you probably also wold want to
> connect this into the Orientation work:
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/
> 
> 4) Maybe it is time for a UX-specific mailing list?
> 
> 5) Prepare a blog post that we can promote a UX Call for Volunteers
> 
> Key observation:  when we do a call for volunteers, people will
> volunteer in a staggered pattern, some on day one, some on day 2, some
> a week later, some two weeks later, etc.  You will go crazy if you
> have explain the same basic things on the list, over and over again.
> So getting the common questions that everyone will have onto the
> website is key.  That is the purpose of orientation.
> 
> I'm hoping we can take this general approach and refine it based on
> experience with QA and L10N then apply it more broadly to other areas
> of the project, including UX, Market, Dev, Website, etc.
> 
> -Rob
> 
> 

Good stuff. Thanks for sharing. This aligns with my initial thoughts and 
provides some great recommendations to move forward. 



> 
>> This is a great way to get more non-technical people involved. Validating
>> the system's ability to realize our core usage scenarios is really
>> important.
>> 
>> This also means we need to crank up the survey effort, where I was working
>> on deploying a top task validation survey. Ultimately, we need to capture
>> our core usage scenarios in a single, trusted source for all stakeholders
>> to reference moving forward.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Kevin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Kay Schenk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=you_can_help_us_improve
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone has other ideas for the list of reasons to help with QA, let me
>>>> know.
>>>> 
>>>> But in general it looks like we're ready to start a major recruitment
>>>> effort for QA.  We can probably do something similar for localization
>>>> soon as well.
>>>> 
>>>> -Rob
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> oK, this is good. My one comment would be to link to *some page* on "Apache
>>> OpenOffice 4.0" that contains information on what this release will
>>> provide.  I would think the more volunteers felt it was worthwhile, the
>>> more likely they would be to help with QA.
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to the final draft.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> MzK
>>> 
>>> "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never
>>> dealt  with a cat."
>>>                                                -- Robert Heinlein
>>> 

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