On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Shenfeng Liu <liush...@gmail.com> wrote: >> 2012/11/24 Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> >> >>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > first of all I would like to volunteer again as release manager for our >>> > next release if it's ok for our community. >>> > >>> > Second I would like to define with you what our next release will be. >>> > After various discussion and activities on the mailing list and also at >>> > the ApacheCon, I got the impression that the majority would support a >>> > 4.0 version as our next release. >>> >>> Here is what we currently have on the planning wiki as proposed for 4.0: >>> >>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Planning >>> >>> Is it your/our intention to have these items complete for a proposed >>> 4.0 release? >>> >> Kay, >> That's the 4.0 planning wiki we should continue to work on. But some >> items there were input long long ago (when we thought there would be a 3.5 >> in front...). So I suggest we should revisit the contents there. >> >> - Shenfeng (Simon) >> >> > > Simon -- > > Well yes we should. > > FYIW, I looked at the 3.5 planning doc as well. And, I couldn't > determine really what from the 3.5. had already been implemented in > "trunk". I need to go over this. > > OK, I only bring up the cwiki page because this is what the "public" > has been seeing and is referenced in the recent "Call for Marketing > Volunteers" blog. . >
oops! sorry, meant to delete this partial sentence...please ignore it. > Also, we might look again at the information that was colelcted via the Google >>> >>> > >>> > We are planning some bigger UI changes for the next release (sidebar) >>> > and such UI changes are always a good indicator for a new major release >>> > to signal our users bigger changers. I know Ariel has also some >>> > incompatible changes regarding add-ons in the pipeline that would also >>> > fit in a major release. >>> > >>> > I noticed some discussion around a new visual design and a bigger >>> > rebranding and this is a further reason for a major release. >>> > >>> > I think it is time to define this more concrete and focus in more detail >>> > on the work that is needed and required to bring a good and stable >>> > release on the road. Our goal should be to continue the success of 3.4 >>> > and 3.4.1. >>> > >>> > If nobody will complain I will start to merge the started 3.5 and 4.0 >>> > planning into one combined planning later. I believe it is important >>> > that we concentrate on our next release. If you think a rebranding is >>> > important and you want to drive it, please start immediately. If you >>> > want to bring in some new features, please communicate it on the list >>> > and start working on it. Let us work on the plan for the next release in >>> > an open and transparent way. >>> > >>> > Besides the next major release we should also continue the discussion on >>> > further language packs based on 3.4.1 to make the latest translations >>> > available as soon as possible. >>> > >>> > One way to make these language packs available would be to integrate the >>> > new translations on the AOO34 branch, build the language packs and a new >>> > source release based on this revision. The effort should be minimal as >>> > long as we don't integrate bugfixes. >>> > >>> > On the other hand a release is of course a lot of work and we can focus >>> > on releasing these new languages together with 4.0. The question is if >>> > we do have the resources for releasing the new languages? >>> > >>> > Any opinions or feedback? >>> > >>> > Juergen >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> MzK >>> >>> “How wrong is it for a woman to expect the man to build the world >>> she wants, rather than to create it herself?” >>> >>> -- Anais Nin >>> > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > “How wrong is it for a woman to expect the man to build the world > she wants, rather than to create it herself?” > > -- Anais Nin -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK “How wrong is it for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself?” -- Anais Nin