On 21 July 2013 21:48, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > > On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:28 AM, janI wrote: > > > On 21 July 2013 16:25, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> > >> On 21 July 2013 16:03, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 12:07 AM, janI wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 21 July 2013 03:34, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net > > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> Hi MWiki, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The MWiki is missing a few key items: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> See: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That is guidance for the "project website". That website is > >>>>>> http://openoffice.apache.org, yes? > >>>>> > >>>>> This is policy for project sites. The Mwiki is a project site and the > >>>>> target for a feather link is mandated to be www.apache.org and not > an > >>>>> internal wiki page that says nothing much about Apache. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> @dave, I do agree with you that this is guideline that should be > >>> followed, > >>>> however I have NOT removed the feather, and when I look at the css > >>> before I > >>>> started doing maintenance I cannot see. > >>>> > >>>> Can anyone remember if it has ever been there, and advice where it > was ? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Of course, the project also works with several other websites, from > >>>>>> www.openoffice.org to Bugzilla to CWiki to Forums to Blogs to MWiki > >>> to > >>>>>> Extensions and Templates. If we think these rules apply to all > >>>>>> project-related websites, then we have a much bigger set of items to > >>>>>> work on, not just MWiki. > >>>>> > >>>>> One thing at a time. The Forums were just adjusted. Extensions site > is > >>>>> much closer to correct than the MWiki. > >>>>> > >>>>> I see that I need to change the footer on www.openoffice.org. Done, > >>> but > >>>>> staged only. I don't want to publish if other AOO4 changes are > pending. > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Left Navigation: > >>>>>>> (1) A link back to the main openoffice.apache.org. > >>>>>>> (2) A link back to the main www.openoffice.org. > >>>>>>> (3) "Main Page" is misleading and should be something like "Wiki > Home > >>>>> Page". > >>>>> > >>>>> I think that additions here would help, but I am not a strong > advocate. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Yeah, it would help to update the whole wiki, something we have been > >>>> discussing from time to time here on the list. But until now nobody > have > >>>> volunteered to help make a new design. > >>> > >>> I volunteered to help when we did www.openoffice.org, but that was > >>> before your time when there was no MWiki sysadmin. Are the MWiki > templates > >>> in the Apache Infrastructure SVN? If so, with a few pointers I can see > what > >>> it would take to make changes. > >>> > >> > >> Only the Aoo template is in svn, because all others are standard > installed > >> from the release. > >> > >> All changes made on top of ver 1.25 are stored in > >> > >> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/machines/vms/ooo-wiki2-vm.apache.org/x1/wiki > >> > >> This is the structure that infra uses for vm specific changes. > >> > >> Be aware that in order to "stage" changes, /x1/wiki exist on the vm, but > >> the files need to copied to /x1/mwiki (live directory) before being > active > >> (documented in the runbook). > >> > >> I have also installed "wikitest.o.o", in order to be able to test > upgrades > >> safely. I used that for layout changes, in order not to interrupt the > live > >> system, before my changes actually worked. > >> > >> I am not working on ooo-wiki2-vm.a.o, so any changes you do will not > >> conflict with other work. > >> > > > > Sorry for double posting, but I forgot an important issue. > > > > Mwiki present itself in different languages automatically, so if you add > > text, the easiest is to reuse texts that are already translated. Adding > new > > text with automatic translation is possible, but would of course require > > translation. > > Thanks for the pointer. With my Apache Member karma I will be able to look > and grab the source code. I plan to submit patches the first few times and > earn any Mwiki karma in the correct way. >
Earning karma is a good way, but please commit the patches (that saves time for everybody). I will be happy to review your patches, but as the story shows I might not be the right person to review UI changes and my fingers are pretty burned at the moment, so I hope a new admin will apply your changes. > I am not sure if I will be able to get to it today, but I will definitely > put it toward the top of my Apache backlog. > > FYI - my day to day is looking at Apache MLs and mentoring the new Apache > OLingo (OData) podling. > thx for info, if I can be of help for OLingo or other podlings, please feel free to point them to me. I think you know my daily job, now that translate.a.o runs as it should, is to get circonus go-live and replace the current nagios monitoring system. After that I will do genLang as a generic extension to translate.a.o so other projects can benefit from it. Have a nice evening. jan I. > > > > > rgds > > jan I. > > > > > >> > >> rgds > >> jan I. > >> > >> > >>> Regards, > >>> Dave > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> rgds > >>>> jan I > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Footer: > >>>>>>> (1) NO trademark attribution. > >>>>>>> (2) The Apache Feather on the lower left is broken and goes to a > bad > >>>>> place. - it must link to http://www.apache.org/ > >>>>>>> (3) Linked to About page needs an update - > >>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOOW:About > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Footer also says "Content is available under", which is incomplete. > I > >>>>>> assume something completed that sentence at one point. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think there was something about a license. > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I wonder whether it makes sense to just copy what we have from > >>>>>> www.openoffice.org and use the same footer on MWiki as well, with > >>>>>> links for: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Copyright & License | Privacy | Contact Us | Donate | Thanks > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Or, if we need to add additional items, do so in a way that keeps > the > >>>>>> wiki and www.openoffice.org footers the same. > >>>>> > >>>>> I can agree with that. The admins may need to pull some css over as > >>> well. > >>>>> > >>>>> Here is openoffice.org footer.html with the above change plus the > >>>>> relevant css > >>>>> > >>>>> <div id="footera"> > >>>>> <div id="poweredbya"><p><a href="http://www.apache.org/"><img > >>>>> src="/images/feather-small.gif" alt="Apache Software > >>>>> Foundation"/></p></a></div> > >>>>> <div id="copyrighta"> > >>>>> <p style="text-align:center;"> > >>>>> <a href="/license.html">Copyright & License</a> | <a > >>>>> href="/privacy.html">Privacy</a> | <a href="/contact_us.html">Contact > >>>>> Us</a> | <a href=" > >>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html#Paypal > ">Donate</a> > >>> | > >>>>> <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html">Thanks</a> > >>>>> </p> > >>>>> <p> > >>>>> Apache, the Apache feather logo, and OpenOffice are trademarks > >>> of > >>>>> The Apache Software Foundation. > >>>>> OpenOffice.org and the seagull logo are registered trademarks > of > >>>>> The Apache Software Foundation. > >>>>> Other names appearing on the site may be trademarks of their > >>>>> respective owners. > >>>>> </p> > >>>>> </div> > >>>>> </div> > >>>>> > >>>>> Here is the related css > >>>>> > >>>>> #footera { > >>>>> margin: 20px 0px 0px 0px; > >>>>> padding: 8px 0px 12px 0px; > >>>>> border-top: 2px solid #ccc; > >>>>> color:#666; > >>>>> font-size: 8pt; > >>>>> padding: 0 8px; > >>>>> text-align: left; > >>>>> overflow: auto; > >>>>> clear: both; > >>>>> line-height: 10pt; > >>>>> } > >>>>> > >>>>> #copyrighta { > >>>>> } > >>>>> > >>>>> #copyrighta p { > >>>>> padding-left: 20px; > >>>>> line-height: 10pt; > >>>>> padding-bottom: 5px; > >>>>> } > >>>>> > >>>>> #copyrighta a { > >>>>> color: #107EC0; > >>>>> text-decoration:underline; > >>>>> } > >>>>> > >>>>> #copyrighta a:hover { > >>>>> background-color: #e6ebed; > >>>>> } > >>>>> > >>>>> #poweredby { > >>>>> float: right; > >>>>> text-align: right; > >>>>> width: 210px; > >>>>> height: 100px; > >>>>> } > >>>>> > >>>>> #asf-logo { > >>>>> width: 180px; > >>>>> padding-top: 20px; > >>>>> } > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> Dave > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Rob > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>> Dave > >>>>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >