On 21 July 2013 21:48, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:28 AM, janI wrote:
>
> > On 21 July 2013 16:25, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 21 July 2013 16:03, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 12:07 AM, janI wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 21 July 2013 03:34, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi MWiki,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The MWiki is missing a few key items:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> See: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That is guidance for  the "project website".  That website is
> >>>>>> http://openoffice.apache.org, yes?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is policy for project sites. The Mwiki is a project site and the
> >>>>> target for a feather link is mandated to be www.apache.org and not
> an
> >>>>> internal wiki page that says nothing much about Apache.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> @dave, I do agree with you that this is guideline that should be
> >>> followed,
> >>>> however I have NOT removed the feather, and when I look at the css
> >>> before I
> >>>> started doing maintenance I cannot see.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can anyone remember if it has ever been there, and advice where it
> was ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Of course, the project also works with several other websites, from
> >>>>>> www.openoffice.org to Bugzilla to CWiki to Forums to Blogs to MWiki
> >>> to
> >>>>>> Extensions and Templates.  If we think these rules apply to all
> >>>>>> project-related websites, then we have a much bigger set of items to
> >>>>>> work on, not just MWiki.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One thing at a time. The Forums were just adjusted. Extensions site
> is
> >>>>> much closer to correct than the MWiki.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I see that I need to change the footer on www.openoffice.org. Done,
> >>> but
> >>>>> staged only. I don't want to publish if other AOO4 changes are
> pending.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Left Navigation:
> >>>>>>> (1) A link back to the main openoffice.apache.org.
> >>>>>>> (2) A link back to the main www.openoffice.org.
> >>>>>>> (3) "Main Page" is misleading and should be something like "Wiki
> Home
> >>>>> Page".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think that additions here would help, but I am not a strong
> advocate.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, it would help to update the whole wiki, something we have been
> >>>> discussing from time to time here on the list. But until now nobody
> have
> >>>> volunteered to help make a new design.
> >>>
> >>> I volunteered to help when we did www.openoffice.org, but that was
> >>> before your time when there was no MWiki sysadmin. Are the MWiki
> templates
> >>> in the Apache Infrastructure SVN? If so, with a few pointers I can see
> what
> >>> it would take to make changes.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Only the Aoo template is in svn, because all others are standard
> installed
> >> from the release.
> >>
> >> All changes made on top of ver 1.25 are stored in
> >>
> >>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/machines/vms/ooo-wiki2-vm.apache.org/x1/wiki
> >>
> >> This is the structure that infra uses for vm specific changes.
> >>
> >> Be aware that in order to "stage" changes, /x1/wiki exist on the vm, but
> >> the files need to copied to /x1/mwiki (live directory) before being
> active
> >> (documented in the runbook).
> >>
> >> I have also installed "wikitest.o.o", in order to be able to test
> upgrades
> >> safely. I used that for layout changes, in order not to interrupt the
> live
> >> system, before my changes actually worked.
> >>
> >> I am not working on ooo-wiki2-vm.a.o, so any changes you do will not
> >> conflict with other work.
> >>
> >
> > Sorry for double posting, but I forgot an important issue.
> >
> > Mwiki present itself in different languages automatically, so if you add
> > text, the easiest is to reuse texts that are already translated. Adding
> new
> > text with automatic translation is possible, but would of course require
> > translation.
>
> Thanks for the pointer. With my Apache Member karma I will be able to look
> and grab the source code. I plan to submit patches the first few times and
> earn any Mwiki karma in the correct way.
>

Earning karma is a good way, but please commit the patches (that saves time
for everybody).

I will be happy to review your patches, but as the story shows I might not
be the right person to review UI changes and my fingers are pretty burned
at the moment, so I hope a new admin will apply your changes.


> I am not sure if I will be able to get to it today, but I will definitely
> put it toward the top of my Apache backlog.
>
> FYI - my day to day is looking at Apache MLs and mentoring the new Apache
> OLingo (OData) podling.
>

thx for info, if I can be of help for OLingo or other podlings, please feel
free to point them to me.

I think you know my daily job, now that translate.a.o runs as it should, is
to get circonus go-live and replace the current nagios monitoring system.
After that I will do genLang as a generic extension to translate.a.o so
other projects can benefit from it.

Have a nice evening.

jan I.




>
> >
> > rgds
> > jan I.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> rgds
> >> jan I.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> rgds
> >>>> jan I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Footer:
> >>>>>>> (1) NO trademark attribution.
> >>>>>>> (2) The Apache Feather on the lower left is broken and goes to a
> bad
> >>>>> place. - it must link to http://www.apache.org/
> >>>>>>> (3) Linked to About page needs an update -
> >>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOOW:About
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Footer also says "Content is available under", which is incomplete.
>  I
> >>>>>> assume something completed that sentence at one point.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think there was something about a license.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I wonder whether it makes sense to just copy what we have from
> >>>>>> www.openoffice.org and use the same footer on MWiki as well, with
> >>>>>> links for:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Copyright & License | Privacy | Contact Us | Donate | Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Or, if we need to add additional items, do so in a way that keeps
> the
> >>>>>> wiki and www.openoffice.org footers the same.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I can agree with that. The admins may need to pull some css over as
> >>> well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here is openoffice.org footer.html with the above change plus the
> >>>>> relevant css
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <div id="footera">
> >>>>>   <div id="poweredbya"><p><a href="http://www.apache.org/";><img
> >>>>> src="/images/feather-small.gif" alt="Apache Software
> >>>>> Foundation"/></p></a></div>
> >>>>>   <div id="copyrighta">
> >>>>>     <p style="text-align:center;">
> >>>>>       <a href="/license.html">Copyright &amp; License</a> | <a
> >>>>> href="/privacy.html">Privacy</a> | <a href="/contact_us.html">Contact
> >>>>> Us</a> | <a href="
> >>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html#Paypal
> ">Donate</a>
> >>> |
> >>>>> <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html";>Thanks</a>
> >>>>>     </p>
> >>>>>     <p>
> >>>>>       Apache, the Apache feather logo, and OpenOffice are trademarks
> >>> of
> >>>>> The Apache Software Foundation.
> >>>>>       OpenOffice.org and the seagull logo are registered trademarks
> of
> >>>>> The Apache Software Foundation.
> >>>>>       Other names appearing on the site may be trademarks of their
> >>>>> respective owners.
> >>>>>     </p>
> >>>>>   </div>
> >>>>> </div>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here is the related css
> >>>>>
> >>>>> #footera {
> >>>>> margin: 20px 0px 0px 0px;
> >>>>> padding: 8px 0px 12px 0px;
> >>>>> border-top: 2px solid #ccc;
> >>>>> color:#666;
> >>>>> font-size: 8pt;
> >>>>> padding: 0 8px;
> >>>>> text-align: left;
> >>>>> overflow: auto;
> >>>>> clear: both;
> >>>>> line-height: 10pt;
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> #copyrighta {
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> #copyrighta p {
> >>>>> padding-left: 20px;
> >>>>> line-height: 10pt;
> >>>>> padding-bottom: 5px;
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> #copyrighta a {
> >>>>> color: #107EC0;
> >>>>> text-decoration:underline;
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> #copyrighta a:hover {
> >>>>> background-color: #e6ebed;
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> #poweredby {
> >>>>> float: right;
> >>>>> text-align: right;
> >>>>> width: 210px;
> >>>>> height: 100px;
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> #asf-logo {
> >>>>> width: 180px;
> >>>>> padding-top: 20px;
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Rob
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Dave
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