On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: > Am 07/30/2013 06:39 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: > >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Rob Weir<robw...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Mattias BIK Service<matt...@bikab.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello >>>> >>>> For christ sake. Every time i trying to download openoffice there is >>>> almost >>>> impossible to find the right download page. >>>> >>>> Im from Sweden and and if the current version is not supported by >>>> Swedish, >>>> put a link to an older version then. How hard can it be? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tired of searching for download links now. >>>> >>>> No reply of this mail is needed. I just have to blow of some steem after >>>> bringing some time on ur website. >>>> >>> >>> One easy way we can improve here. How about modifying this page: >>> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/ >>> >>> And where it currently has the line that says: >>> >>> "Signatures and Hashes: KEYS , ASC , MD5 , SHA256 | Release Notes | >>> Legacy Version" >>> >>> Change that to: >>> >>> "Signatures and Hashes: KEYS , ASC , MD5 , SHA256 | Release Notes | >>> Older AOO Versions | Legacy OpenOffice.org" >>> >>> And then make "Older AOO Versions" link to the old 3.4.1-era >>> download/other.html file, which we could resurrect from SVN. >>> >>> Would that work? >>> >> >> Looking into the issue a little more. It gets a little more complicated. >> >> We're still seeing a fair number of update notifications (around >> 80,000 in the last week) being sent to older OOo installs, 3.3.0 and >> even 3.2.1. I don't know what this is happening, but it is. Maybe >> they are finding an old copy of a CD and installing it and then >> immediately getting the update notification? It can happen. >> >> The update notifications are generally sending them to >> http://www.openoffice.org/download. >> >> When this occurs with a language that was included in 3.4.1 but not in >> 4.0 then this is a problem. They are looking for Swedish, for >> example, and it cannot be found. >> >> For this particular kind of user, I'm not sure a small link labeled >> "Older AOO Versions" will help. It would be very unintuitive for the >> user to look there, because from their perspective they are looking >> for a newer version and 3.4.1 is newer than what they have, not older. >> >> A couple of ways to plug this hole: >> >> 1) Enhance the download logic on the main page to offer the most >> recent version available for the detected language. Or does it >> already try to do that? > > > As we have changed the directory structure it would be a nightmare to create > this logic. BTW: Who would volunteer to test this? :-P > > So, no. The logic tries to guess the right language and platform. But > assumes always a single version. >
The only sane way to do this is to make it data-driven, a data table or even spreadsheet that lists the installed versions and the recommended update paths and then generates either the update XML files or a JSON file that the Javascript can use. Or both. -Rob > >> or >> >> 2) Change the update notifications so the user is sent to the >> 3.4.1-era other.html page, so they can more easily find their >> download. Actually, thinking out loud, this might be the easiest >> solution. And we can still add the "Older AOO Versions", which would >> be good for a different kind of user, someone specifically looking for >> a 3.4.1 download. This might even be our own QA volunteers ;-) > > > Seems to be the perfect challenge to create a table about availablility for > languages and versions. > > I'm getting a bit lost about the game "Find the right versions for the right > languages". ;-) > > >>> Unfortuntely the legacy directory structure, with its "stable" and >>> "localized" directories is too weird to point users to directly. > > > Marcus > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
