On 5 August 2013 22:23, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 08/05/2013 10:24 PM, schrieb sebb:
>
>> On 5 August 2013 20:38, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 08/05/2013 07:11 PM, schrieb sebb:
>>>
>>>> On 4 August 2013 19:45, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 07/27/2013 10:14 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 07/27/2013 10:10 PM, schrieb sebb:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It might be helpful if the download page showed the approximate file
>>>>>>> size downloads.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This would help users to know how long it might take (and do they
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> the space!) as well as offering an obvious sign if a download is
>>>>>>> truncated by more than a few kB. Not perfect, but would have helped
>>>>>>> the recent downloader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right, this would be much more helpful than having nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll think about how to implement this into the current DL scripting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've created some new scripting and the result can be seen here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's good to have the size in the main download box.
>>>> However, given that the size is approximate, I'm not sure it's
>>>> necessary to provide it to two decimal places.
>>>> Either give the exact size, or round to the nearest MB.
>>>>
>>>> The page shows me:
>>>>
>>>> Windows (EXE) and English (British) (~129.89 MByte).
>>>>
>>>> Once downloaded, the Windows XP property page shows:
>>>> 129 MB (136,201,626 bytes)
>>>>
>>>> So I think the download box should also show 129MB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, I've eliminated the decimal places.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Unhelpfully, the SF downloads page [1] shows 136.2MB - looks as though
>>>> they divided by 1000 rather than 1024 - though it's unlikely anyone
>>>> would/could use that page as the file names are all truncated.  I
>>>> don't know if it's possible to change the column sze for the name
>>>> column. Would be good if that could be corrected along with the size.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please have a look into this issue:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122233
>>>
>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>>
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/en-GB/
>>>>
>>>> Also, the KEYS/sigs/hashes ought to be shown before the alternate
>>>> downloads, ideally within the main green box as they relate to the
>>>> main download
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've tried to realize that. But I think it's not possible as there is
>>> only
>>> one link possible as the whole pper green box has to be clickable: for
>>> the
>>> install file or for one of the signature/hash files.
>>>
>>> The most important part is the install file. Everything else is
>>> secondary.
>>
>>
>> In that case, put the KEYS etc. in a separate box immediately under
>> the clickable box.
>
>
> I've rearranged the content of the sub-green box. Now the hash links are on
> top.
>
>
>>>> The other downloads ought to be shown in a bit more detail in a separate
>>>> box
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you mean with more details? What do you think is missing?
>>
>>
>> The links are very cramped, and there is no explanation of what they are
>> for.
>
>
> Yes, that's right. A new format how these are presented to the users is
> needed.
>
>
>> At present the page reads:
>>
>> [LARGE GREEN DOWNLOAD BOX]
>> Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source code and SDK |
>> Portable USB versions and third-party ports | Older and legacy
>> versions: 3.4.1 + 3.3.0 |
>> Signatures and hashes: KEYS , ASC , MD5 , SHA256 , How to verify? |
>> Release Notes
>>
>> It should read something like:
>>
>> [LARGE GREEN DOWNLOAD BOX]
>> Signatures and hashes: KEYS , ASC , MD5 , SHA256 , How to verify? |
>> Release Notes
>> <blank line>
>> <then another different colour box containing something like>
>> Looking for other downloads?
>> * Builds of OpenOffice 4.0.0 for other platforms and languages
>> * Additional Language packs for your OpenOffice installation
>> * The source code and the SDK (Software Development Kit)
>> * Portable USB versions and third-party ports of OpenOffice
>> * Older and Legacy versions [should probably link to a separate page
>> that explains the difference between 3.4.1 and 3.3.0]
>
>
> OK. Let's see how this can be solved. This will be a bigger task. I'll put
> this into the Wiki for improvement.
>
>
>> ==
>>
>> The rest of the page is laid out with plenty of space between items.
>> At present the light green box looks out of place, and is tricky to
>
>
> In general, because it's also green I don't think that it is out of place.
> The connection to the normal green box - and therefore to the most current
> release - should be obvious and not that it is something different. But ...

By "looks out of place" I meant that the styling/layout of the box
does not agree with the rest of the page.

>
>> read unless you know exactly what you are looking for (and you
>> understand the jargon).
>
>
> ... yes, that's right. A new format could be better.
>
> Marcus
>

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