On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi All. > > We have now reached the end of the lazy consensus period. > > There has been no -1, a couple of comments and a couple of +1, this means > the proposal is accepted. > > However, I have to admit, I think we have a big problem. > > If I go ahead with the proposal (as lazy consensus suggest), and follow the > idea from Andrea. I would have to remove a large part of the vm team. Only > andrea has reacted at all (with a +1), and according to the idea from > andrea we should revoke the others karma. > > Can it really be true, that the current vm team dont want to take if I take > lead ? In that case it would be highly wrong of me to use the lazy > consensus. >
The problem is timing. Quite a few people are still on holiday and will not return until next week. In fact this whole thing has been discussed in a time when several people were away. -Rob > I can understand a lot of subscribers to this list, dont care (as long as > the services are available), but given the previous debate (and the focus > on forcing me to forward a new proposal), I would have expected the PMC > group to voice their opinion, and also the current vm team. > > We cannot just overrule the current sysadm, that does not feel fair !! > > Any thoughts ? > rgds > jan I. > > > On 29 December 2013 16:09, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: > >> top posting. >> >> A friendly reminder, this LAZY Consensus proposal runs until january 2nd. >> >> Until now, no -1 has been received. >> >> Andrea is the only team member that has given a +1 >> >> the other team members (jsc, imacat, arist) have not expressed any opinion >> yet. >> >> Wish you all a happy new year. >> rgds >> jan I. >> >> >> >> On 28 December 2013 17:39, Andrew Pitonyak <and...@pitonyak.org> wrote: >> >>> I have been following as best I can while traveling, and it is not my >>> place to say, but I agree.... >>> >>> jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> >On 28 December 2013 16:19, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote: >>> > >>> >> On 22/12/2013 jan i wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> based on a polite push from a good infra colleague, I have decided to >>> >>> present yet another proposal for maintaining ooo-wiki2-vm.a.o and >>> >>> ooo-forums.a.o >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> I agree with the proposal, so +1 from me. >>> >> >>> >> The main value it brings is that we will have a common (and >>> lightweight) >>> >> set of rules that allow us to establish some initial guidelines. This >>> will >>> >> make it easier to include new volunteers later, or promote existing >>> >> volunteers to sysadmin role, or do whatever we agree upon, at due >>> time. But >>> >> we need an initial set of guidelines to work effectively as a team. >>> > >>> > >>> >thanks for your +1, thats the first of the existing team, I still hope >>> the >>> >rest of the team will join. The intention of the proposal is NOT to >>> exclude >>> >anybody, it (as andrea write very nicely) to make a basis on which we can >>> >build, while securing our servers. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I suggest myself for sysadm, and jsc, pescetti, arist and imacat for >>> >>> vm-team. Of course my suggestion depends on the willingness of the >>> >>> mentioned people. >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> I'm willing to be part of team as proposed. >>> > >>> >thx, your input and help is much valued. >>> > >>> >Remember there are 3 days left of this year, if you have something to >>> catch >>> >up on. >>> > >>> >rgds >>> >jan I. >>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Regards, >>> >> Andrea. >>> >> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
