On 10/22/2014 12:18 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
> 2014-10-22 20:35 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Zasuwik <mzasu...@gmail.com>:
> 
>> 2014-10-22 9:56 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> On 21/10/14 18:00, Mateusz Zasuwik wrote:
>>>> For instance, here:
>>>>
>>>>> In other words, for some reason, development of OpenOffice has all but
>>>> stalled, while LibreOffice remains an active project.
>>>>
>>>> Much of OpenOffice's recent decline may be due to IBM's withdrawal from
>>> the
>>>> project. OpenOffice 4.1.1. An anonymous informant alleges -- and web
>>>> searches appear to confirm -- that IBM did nothing to publicize
>>> OpenOffice
>>>> 4.1.1 when it was released on August 21, and that, since then, IBM
>>>> developers have disappeared from the OpenOffice mailing lists.
>>>
>>> well I see still IBM developers here on the list frequently but of
>>> course less. It is simply because we do less but it does not mean
>>> anything else.
>>>
>>> But the question is of course more why does it matter. If we do to much
>>> people say we control the project,if do to less people say OpenOffice is
>>> dead. Really strange and people should think about Apache and how Apache
>>> works. It is potentially a harder time for OpenOffice if we do less but
>>> it is up to the community to keep the project alive together with us.
>>> Nobody should rely on our resources and expect that we will do it.
>>>
>>> OpenOffice is and remains a powerful brand even if the projects runs
>>> slower. Important is the quality and if it solves the daily tasks of our
>>> users.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Juergen.
>>
>> Thank you for answer. So, for me, the most important question is "why IBM
>> minimize its involvement?".
>>
>> The part about controlling project is irrelevant for me, because every
>> project has its own carriage horse. For OO it was Sun/Oracle/IBM, for
>> LibreOffice it's SUSE, Collabora, Lanedo. The role of community is hype for
>> me. I am just a little surprised with speed of AOO development, especially
>> when we recall from memory IBM's announcements about Lotus Symphony's end
>> of life and when we recall their promises about release "IBM OpenOffice
>> Edition". I thought this company will do their best to renew code,
>> interface and it will undertake tries to monetize this project what should
>> let OpenOffice thrive. Lotus contained many nice solutions i.g. tabs system
>> and now everything seems to be going down.
>>
>> People (users) are worrying about OpenOffice status so I would like to just
>> rectify some opinions floating around. Many says that IBM alone stop
>> believing in OpenOffice. You confirm that IBM is doing less. Wiki is not
>> updated for a long time. So this symptoms are showing... what exactly?
>>
> 
> If people are worried they just need to start contributing to AOO, for
> example translating http://www.openoffice.org/pl/.
> 
> Just drop an email to l10n and the AOO community will provide tools and
> instructions to let you all become active stakeholders.
> 
> *Ask* not, what AOO can do for you. *Ask* what, you can do for AOO.

EXACTLY! :)

Thanks for pointing this out.

> 
> We value people by their actions, everyone is pretty much welcome in a
> community where meritocracy and diversity are the only way forward.
> 
> Roberto
> 

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