On 10/22/2014 12:18 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: > 2014-10-22 20:35 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Zasuwik <mzasu...@gmail.com>: > >> 2014-10-22 9:56 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com>: >> >>> On 21/10/14 18:00, Mateusz Zasuwik wrote: >>>> For instance, here: >>>> >>>>> In other words, for some reason, development of OpenOffice has all but >>>> stalled, while LibreOffice remains an active project. >>>> >>>> Much of OpenOffice's recent decline may be due to IBM's withdrawal from >>> the >>>> project. OpenOffice 4.1.1. An anonymous informant alleges -- and web >>>> searches appear to confirm -- that IBM did nothing to publicize >>> OpenOffice >>>> 4.1.1 when it was released on August 21, and that, since then, IBM >>>> developers have disappeared from the OpenOffice mailing lists. >>> >>> well I see still IBM developers here on the list frequently but of >>> course less. It is simply because we do less but it does not mean >>> anything else. >>> >>> But the question is of course more why does it matter. If we do to much >>> people say we control the project,if do to less people say OpenOffice is >>> dead. Really strange and people should think about Apache and how Apache >>> works. It is potentially a harder time for OpenOffice if we do less but >>> it is up to the community to keep the project alive together with us. >>> Nobody should rely on our resources and expect that we will do it. >>> >>> OpenOffice is and remains a powerful brand even if the projects runs >>> slower. Important is the quality and if it solves the daily tasks of our >>> users. >>> >> >> >> Hey Juergen. >> >> Thank you for answer. So, for me, the most important question is "why IBM >> minimize its involvement?". >> >> The part about controlling project is irrelevant for me, because every >> project has its own carriage horse. For OO it was Sun/Oracle/IBM, for >> LibreOffice it's SUSE, Collabora, Lanedo. The role of community is hype for >> me. I am just a little surprised with speed of AOO development, especially >> when we recall from memory IBM's announcements about Lotus Symphony's end >> of life and when we recall their promises about release "IBM OpenOffice >> Edition". I thought this company will do their best to renew code, >> interface and it will undertake tries to monetize this project what should >> let OpenOffice thrive. Lotus contained many nice solutions i.g. tabs system >> and now everything seems to be going down. >> >> People (users) are worrying about OpenOffice status so I would like to just >> rectify some opinions floating around. Many says that IBM alone stop >> believing in OpenOffice. You confirm that IBM is doing less. Wiki is not >> updated for a long time. So this symptoms are showing... what exactly? >> > > If people are worried they just need to start contributing to AOO, for > example translating http://www.openoffice.org/pl/. > > Just drop an email to l10n and the AOO community will provide tools and > instructions to let you all become active stakeholders. > > *Ask* not, what AOO can do for you. *Ask* what, you can do for AOO.
EXACTLY! :) Thanks for pointing this out. > > We value people by their actions, everyone is pretty much welcome in a > community where meritocracy and diversity are the only way forward. > > Roberto > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "Success breeds complacency. Complacency breeds failure. Only the paranoid survive." -- Andy Grove, Intel Co-founder --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org