Much better.

Any chance to add install instructions for the Linux, not been around enough 
distros to know the difference between the various installs. Seems to be a 
barrier for some people to use AOO instead of the default office suite.

The method I use on a new install is;
sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice*
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoremove
cd en-GB/DEBS
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
cd desktop-integration
sudo dpkg -i *.deb

Something like that, actually think I do;
cd en-GB/DEBS
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
sudo dpkg -i desktop-integration/*.deb

Would be helpful, since OpenOffice (does not seem to be or) is not the Software 
Center (on Linux Mint)

Thanks for the update that points to 
https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/download/platform_hints.html now I do 
no longer have to think about deb vs rpm.

________________________________
From: Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de>
Sent: Monday, 5 April 2021 12:52 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org <dev@openoffice.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Platform hint text for macOS

I've changed the visualization of the platform hints:

https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopenoffice-org.staged.apache.org%2Fdownload%2Findex.html&amp;data=04%7C01%7C2018001901%40student.sit.ac.nz%7Cf855544745ed4cf9283b08d8f76896d8%7Cc46ab213d1794a719ff7b9d9fe3f3b48%7C0%7C0%7C637531375906771683%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=7vUcLlfNZkJqPRd2QG5VXN2w%2BXyiwDC0bpW7WvK8es4%3D&amp;reserved=0

Please have a look and tell me if this is better than the previous
"tooltip over the colored button" solution.

PS:
The text for macOS is still missing. Maybe time to define it?

Thanks

Marcus



Am 15.03.21 um 18:24 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi Jim,
>
> Am 15.03.21 um 14:47 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> Maybe on the download page have something like "Universal binary: Intel and 
>> Silicon/M1"
>
> That would be a bit misleading since we don't have a "Universal Binary"
> [1] yet, we now have a binary for Intel that runs on ARM via Rosetta 2 [2].
>
> Regards,
>
>     Matthias
>
> [1] 
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUniversal_binary%23Universal_2&amp;data=04%7C01%7C2018001901%40student.sit.ac.nz%7Cf855544745ed4cf9283b08d8f76896d8%7Cc46ab213d1794a719ff7b9d9fe3f3b48%7C0%7C0%7C637531375906771683%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=PBgX4nSyZzN4LMlWh8f%2BLMb8ZylHRlAsD1rZFViHgWU%3D&amp;reserved=0
>
> [2] 
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRosetta_&amp;data=04%7C01%7C2018001901%40student.sit.ac.nz%7Cf855544745ed4cf9283b08d8f76896d8%7Cc46ab213d1794a719ff7b9d9fe3f3b48%7C0%7C0%7C637531375906771683%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=DU5IkQhs9Ap5DX%2FwaikgzgNS7qAs5N%2FEQPJv0yoLR%2Bg%3D&amp;reserved=0(software)#Rosetta_2
>
>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 1:38 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Marcus, all,
>>>
>>> These are the mails I am talking of... ;-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>     Matthias
>>>
>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>>>
>>> Betreff:    Mac Mini M1 Chip
>>> Datum:      Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:25:30 -0500
>>> Von:        David Stuhr <david.st...@verizon.net.INVALID> 
>>> <mailto:david.st...@verizon.net.INVALID>
>>> Antwort an: us...@openoffice.apache.org <mailto:us...@openoffice.apache.org>
>>> An: us...@openoffice.apache.org <mailto:us...@openoffice.apache.org>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Does Open Office 4.1.9 for the Mac work with the new Mac Mini M1 Chip?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.03.21 um 01:24 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Am 09.03.21 um 01:52 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>> Am 08.03.21 um 23:00 schrieb Dean.Webber:
>>>>>> I agree with "Maybe we need something more obvious than a tool tip."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have been clicking on 'Important hint: RPM vs. DEB = What to choose?' 
>>>>>> for some time, without any result. It is usually not obvious to hover on 
>>>>>> something for a tool tip, and probably should not be used to contain 
>>>>>> important information.
>>>>> OK, then I suggest to first agree on a text and then decide on how to 
>>>>> display it to the users.
>>>> really no suggestions? I remeber that we had some discussions about what 
>>>> to tell the users in past threads.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> <mailto:w...@apache.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2021 9:51 AM
>>>>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org <mailto:dev@openoffice.apache.org> 
>>>>>> <dev@openoffice.apache.org> <mailto:dev@openoffice.apache.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Platform hint text for macOS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Matthias Seidel 
>>>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> <mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Marcus,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 08.03.21 um 19:29 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>> Am 08.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>> Am 08.03.21 um 15:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand the question. We just have 1 offering for Mac
>>>>>>>>>> users... so what kind of hint text would we need?
>>>>>>>> the same for Windows. But we also a suitable text for Mac users.
>>>>>>>> So, what is important for these users?
>>>>>>> Maybe someone who monitors the forum can answer best?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the impression that users are hesitating to download/install AOO
>>>>>>> on macOS (esp. Big Sur) because they don't know if it will work. Of
>>>>>>> course, you and me would just try out, but we are no "ordinary" users.
>>>>>> They also hesitate after download due to the gatekeeper issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe we need something more obvious than a tool tip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note for Windows the Important Hint could be prefixed with "Use 32 bit 
>>>>>> for 64 bit windows”.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For macOS the important button could be: “Works on BigSur and M1 chips. 
>>>>>> Bypass the Gatekeeper - See Q05” with a link to 
>>>>>> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.openoffice.org%2Fen%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D89283&amp;data=04%7C01%7C2018001901%40student.sit.ac.nz%7Cf855544745ed4cf9283b08d8f76896d8%7Cc46ab213d1794a719ff7b9d9fe3f3b48%7C0%7C0%7C637531375906781678%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=BuvnDXcEfLqL0dcoVwo4yZKvv7jqT%2Bh5NerxCS8GNOk%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.openoffice.org%2Fen%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D89283&amp;data=04%7C01%7C2018001901%40student.sit.ac.nz%7Cf855544745ed4cf9283b08d8f76896d8%7Cc46ab213d1794a719ff7b9d9fe3f3b48%7C0%7C0%7C637531375906781678%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=BuvnDXcEfLqL0dcoVwo4yZKvv7jqT%2Bh5NerxCS8GNOk%3D&amp;reserved=0>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Matthias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2021, at 9:28 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> <mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Really no mac user interested?!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.03.21 um 20:58 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 10.01.21 um 19:12 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fdownload%2Findex.html&amp;data=04%7C01%7C2018001901%40student.sit.ac.nz%7Cf855544745ed4cf9283b08d8f76896d8%7Cc46ab213d1794a719ff7b9d9fe3f3b48%7C0%7C0%7C637531375906781678%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=v2uoRKr5R4%2BXaQLmjc4y%2B3YEmswX%2FoAE9n1XAqT%2BfGs%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fdownload%2Findex.html&amp;data=04%7C01%7C2018001901%40student.sit.ac.nz%7Cf855544745ed4cf9283b08d8f76896d8%7Cc46ab213d1794a719ff7b9d9fe3f3b48%7C0%7C0%7C637531375906781678%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=v2uoRKr5R4%2BXaQLmjc4y%2B3YEmswX%2FoAE9n1XAqT%2BfGs%3D&amp;reserved=0>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have now a hint text for Linux "RPM vs. DEB = What to choose?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows "32-bit, 64-bit and Java - What to choose?".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Yes, not that beautiful. But this is work in progress and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a different thread. :-) )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now it's the question what do we want to tell our Mac users when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to download their favorit AOO version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need a nice title and more details in mouse-over text.
>>>>>>>>>>>> after the release of 4.1.9 is now done, I would like to take the
>>>>>>>>>>>> chance for asking if there are any suggestions.

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