Mathias Bauer wrote:
Shawn McDermott wrote:
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Resent-From: [email protected] From: Bruce Byfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: May 8, 2005 9:26:07 PM EDT To: [email protected] Subject: FSF to fork OOo over java
See:
http://www.fsf.org/news/open-office-java.html
I'm planning to follow up on this news in an article for Newsforge. Does anybody have any comments they would like to make?
I had an interesting conversation with Richard Stallman. seems he is backing off of the fork idea. Seems he has made the decision to help OOo work with a 'free' java implementation rather than fork OOo. I think this is the better way to go, and hopefully he will continue down this path rather than a fork.
That's nice to read. Scott Carr had suggested this in an e-mail he sent to RMS (thanks to Scott!). And RMS was clear in his answer that he doesn't have any problems with Java in general - he just wants to have the code running on a free[TM] RE. Obviously he didn't know about the JRE framework we have created in OOo to allow pluging in any Java RE that fulfils some basic criteria (that BTW gcj matches).
yes, this is a much more productive route.
It makes me happy to hear that pragmatism is more widespread than it could be expected from the statement that started this discussion.
OTOH it also shows me that we should emphasize our efforts regarding JREs a little bit more. That means for the side of the OOo "core" developers:
help integrating other JREs and be more careful in trying to avoid problematic Java classes and *make this known*
for other (OOo) developers interested in a "free software only" environment:
work on a free JRE (f.e. gcj) and/or provide non-Java replacements for Java code in OOo if preferred
and for everybody else:
please stop the anti-Java rant.
> > Best regards, > Mathias >
amen! The rant is confusing to a lot of people. The statement that sun's jre isn't free is very confusing to the masses. I have been developing using java for several years and feel that this argument is a rediculous one. However, I do think that getting other jre's up to speed is a good thing.
I have installed gcj and I am playing around with it. so far 1.9.100 does not run 'out of the box' with gcj.
Regards, Shawn
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