Hi.

Let's suppose I want to try OpenOffice.org Premium on a Fedora Core 5
box that already has OpenOffice installed. Is it a relocatable package?
If not, will it trample on existing files?

Peter



On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 11:11 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi Kami,
> 
> KAMI wrote:
> > Dear Jürgen!
> > 
> > Jürgen Schmidt írta:
> >> Hi Kami,
> >>
> >> why did you create an own installation set
> > I have created my own installation set because:
> > - it is funny ;o)
> great to here
> 
> > - it makes OpenOffice.org more attractive compared to other (Commercial) 
> > suites. Other suites has more complete clipart, temlate, font colletion 
> > in the installer... (In case of OpenOffice.org Premium ~2400 clipart, 
> > ~80 impress background, ~60 temlpates, ~90 fonts, 40 fontwork gallery 
> > element (already integrated), Bitstream vera replaced by Deja Vu 
> > (integration on the way)... I think OpenOffice.org Premium extras looks 
> > more shiny than original...
> > - all-in-one solution makes the life easier (You do not have to download 
> > templates, fonts, clipart, fontwork gallery, documentation, OOo related 
> > materials, UNO components (LaTeX filter)) separetly, the install it.You 
> > get all thing via one click... Ideal way for beginners...
> > - I enjoyed the work with your heplful collegues Ingo and Kai.
> perfect, it seems that you like the work with the community and you 
> obviously has done a good job with all the new stuff for your "premium" 
> OO.org.
> 
> >> and why didn't you provide your template collection to the OO.org 
> >> project directly.
> > As far as I know the English and German templates are available via 
> > local language teams' homepage. Hungarian templates are available at 
> > hu.openoffice.org.
> > OpenOffice Premium source (patcset for vanilla OOo) is available here:
> > ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/Source_mod/
> ok, i don't know the details exactly how the template stuff is 
> organized. But i think that there should be one place for all languages. 
> One place with a set of templates, impress backgrounds ... where the 
> community has agreed that they should become the default in an official 
> OpenOffice.org distro. No differentiation between OpenOffice.org and a 
> OpenOffice.org Premium or others.
> Make it easy for our end users -->> one OpenOffice.org -->> no further 
> decision which distro of OpenOffice would be the best for me.
> 
> Ok there are always reasons for having commercial products based on 
> OpenOffice.org. I mean especially support and service issues for 
> companies which are often bind to a commercial product and which from my 
> point of view is ok. But i personally as private user of OpenOffice.org 
> wouldn't really choose between different OpenOffice.org versions.
> 
> > 
> > So we didn't hide our work. What do you think where should we promote 
> > our templates?
> >> That would have the benefit that the translation mechanisms on OO.org 
> >> can be used
> > Translatig is not affecting templates just the additional installation 
> > parts, galleries, etc. Templates are created one by one for every 
> > language...
> mmh, i think often the idea and structure of a template is important and 
> if you have some kind of master template in English for example other 
> user can translate the template to other languages as well but reusing 
> the original idea, structure, macros, ...
> 
> 
> >> and all OO.org versions would benefit of a better or bigger template 
> >> collection and better or more impress schemes.
> > Of course everybody benefit from out collection because everybody can 
> > use the extras (as you saw they are available for public), but Premium - 
> > from my viewpoint - is one (or two) step forward because it integrates 
> > these extras into OpenOffice.org perfectly...
> fine, and you can make the seconds step (installing OO.org Premium) 
> obsolete by integrating it in the offical OpenOffice.org build
> 
> > 
> > Here is a snippet about OpenOffice.org Premium:
> > 
> > OpenOffice.org Premium = OpenOffice.org + Extras
> > 
> > 
> > OpenOffice.org Premium is a free and open source enhancement of official 
> > OpenOffice.org. The Hungarian Native Language Team has modified the 
> > source of OpenOffice.org and bundled lot of extras with it. Here are 
> > just a few of the extras you get with OpenOffice.org Premium:
> > 
> > 
> > * Clip Art (currently more than 2,400 objects)
> > 
> > * Templates (number varies by language)
> > 
> > * Samples (number varies by language)
> > 
> > * Documentation (if available)
> > 
> > * Fonts (more than 90 fonts)
> > 
> > 
> > OpenOffice.org Premium is based on the latest and greatest version of 
> > OpenOffice.org -- 2.0.2.
> > 
> > You can download OpenOffice.org Premium 2.0.2 from here:
> > 
> > ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/OOB680_m5_Premium
> > 
> > 
> > Current language versions:
> > 
> > Hungarian (HU), English (EN-US)
> the official build supports much more
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Current platforms:
> > 
> > Linux and Windows
> the official build supports much more
> 
> > 
> > 
> > The modified source code can be downloaded here:
> > 
> > ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/Source_mod
> > 
> > 
> > (Current version is: OOo202Premium-step7.zip 
> > <ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/Source_mod/OOo202Premium-step7.zip>
> >  
> > )
> > 
> > 
> > The modified source code is available for everyone. It has been changed to
> > 
> > utilize all of OpenOffice.org features, including localization. If you'd
> > 
> > like to help us improve OpenOffice.org Premium, here are a few of the ways
> > 
> > you can get involved:
> > 
> > * Translators - translate the resource files to your language and send 
> > it them back to me
> > * Content creators/revisors - Send me templates and openoffice.org 
> > documentation (in OpenDocument Format) for your language. Collect as 
> > many as you can, but please keep out the poor, low quality content... 
> > Someone might recheck the English content of upcoming OpenOffice.org 
> > Premium 2.0.2 - It is only a sample.
> > * Gallery submitters/coordinators/organisers - Send me a free galleries 
> > or images (mainly in vector based format) good quality SVG->WMF 
> > convertions may be interesting...
> > * Builders - to build OpenOffice.org Premium with other language - I can 
> > do it, but I have only one machine and it is also for work
> > * Programmers - to develop a new ideas, make it better
> > * Voters - If you find it useful you can vote for integration:
> > 
> > 62405 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium 
> > integration - Gallery (1/4)
> > 62406 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium 
> > integration - Fonts (2/4)
> > 62407 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium 
> > integration - Templates (3/4)
> > 62408 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium 
> > integration - Samples (4/4)
> > http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62405
> > http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62406
> > http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62407
> > http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62408
> 
> Thanks for sharing all this info here ...
> 
> Juergen
> 
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