Mathias Bauer wrote:
> tora - Takamichi Akiyama wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Anyone, good solution?
>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=73155
>>
>> User scenario:
>>   1. A citizen visits a web site of public office to obtain an application 
>> form.
>>   2. She clicks on a link decorated with an icon of OpenDocument file format.
>>   3. The document is successfully opened in her web browser with 
>> OpenOffice.org,
>>      but she cannot enter anything in it.
> 
> Opening a document in a browser plugin for editing is not a good idea as
> the environment is too fragile to risk your data. As an example, when
> the browser is closed or the user opens another page in the same browser
> window all data entered is lost if the user didn't save it before. There
> is no way to prevent a browser to throw out a plugin!

You have a good point. I understand that.

> So if you have a lot of situations like this you should deinstall the
> plugin so that the documents get openend in OOo directly.

The problem is that users in the world could not be I.
I can follow your suggestion, but what about tremendous number of casual
users all over the world?

> Besides that entering data into forms should be done using input fields
> and a submit button. There is no need to "save" the form (=document) to
> transfer form data. Even if the form is an OOo document it can perform
> this task perfectly in read-only mode.
> 
> If I understood your use case correctly it looks like the misuse of
> documents as form and data container at the same time.
> 
> Some other points in the issueare quite interesting though, e.g. the
> comment about "not accessible object". It fits nicely to some other more
> general ideas about the "read only mode".

Another scenario:
 The Human Resource in a traditional company (*1) sent to all employees
 an e-mail commanding them open and fill an document, print, and submit it.
 The document can be obtained from \\Fileserver\Path\Filename.

 User A opens the document under normal mode.
 User B opens it under read-only mode.
 User C opens it under read-only mode.

 The users B, C, and the rest are not given meaningful information on the
 situation. They face "read-only." They are warned with a message
 "This document cannot be edited, possibly due to missing access right.
 Do you want to edit a copy of the document?" upon clicking on an icon
 "Edit file." The similar situation still happens.

*1: the company does not have web specialists who can create a web form
    and system that automatically gathering submitted data.

Caio,
Tora

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