Hello Juergen, Davide, Allen, all,

Juergen Schmidt a écrit :
> Hi Davide,
>
> Davide Dozza wrote:
>> Hi Juergen,
>>
>> I wouldn't discuss about [2] and [3]. They are just examples and they
>> have been discussing on other places.
>>
>> I would like to discuss about [1] and why we are almost the same people
>> any year, why the number of participants doesn't grow and why large
>> proportion of people comes from few companies.
> i think that is obvious because these companies invest a lot of money
> in the project in form of developer resources. The work has to be done
> and it is good that some companies pay full time developers for their
> work. Otherwise we wouldn't be there where we are today. Each
> individual contributor can help a little bit and that is fantastic.
> Every little contribution is important. See for example localization,
> it is an area where our community works great because it is much
> easier to extract this piece of work from the normal development process.
> It is more difficult in other areas but it is not impossible and of
> course i claim that things become better and better. And we do of
> course can do a lot of more things to improve and simplify it.
>
> And of course i would say it is the same as for other open source
> projects as well, isn't it. I think Linux is driven in the same way.
> Huge amount of work is done by full time developers of companies and
> additionally to that tons of smaller contributions from individuals.


I think this analysis goes without speaking here Jürgen. And that should
never be seen as an issue.
>
> i think not, what would it really change? Ask yourself if you would
> change anything for your own work on the project. And if yes what does
> you really prevent form doing it today?
Nothing prevents Davide from contributing if you see this issue just in
terms of processes. But what could repel Davide and others is the
feeling (and perhaps a justified feeling) that individuals are nothing
but large companies everything. You may notice that this is not an issue
confined within OOo :-) ...
More seriously, part of the attraction of FOSS is that there is a degree
of appropriation of the software/project in the psyche of any
contributor. If governance shows the exact evidence of the contrary, you
have unhappy contributors, and one day, you'll end up having no more
individual contributors.

The demand here is thus to strike a (much difficult to evaluate) balance
between major corps and individual/small org contributors. Why? To
please Davide or myself? No. Because you know Jürgen, just like many
others than this part of the community (the "independent" contributors
matters a lot, both in terms of code contribution than in terms of usage
expansion, QA, etc.).

So that's the crux of the issue according to me. How do we address this
feeling? How do we strike a balance between the different stakeholders?
These are the questions we must answer.

best,
Charles.

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