Hello Michael,
Le 7 mars 08 à 15:35, Michael Meeks a écrit :
Hi Charles,
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 19:39 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
- it will be 'hackers' only
Well, given the content of the talks and company, I'm
confident it will be much less interesting to non-hackers, so modulo
some really patient people coming, you're prolly right, is that a
problem ?
Yes, it is one; I thought it was a community event. While technical
discussions are perennial to our project, I don't see the need for
segregating the community between hackers and non hackers; every part
of our community is legitimate (see your [2]) So, I don't understand
why this event should be constrained within the limits and among the
people you define.
- nobody will be able to speak politics (ah, those darned politics
and, always pointing out awkward things about your employer!
Why do they even exist?)
Honestly, I'm happy to talk politics[1] vigorously: will you
share an hour slot with me for a debate on the future of OpenOffice in
Beijing ?
I will be more than happy to do so, although debating with somebody
from Microsoft could have probably sped up things. Of course, such a
debate is possible provided I can get the funding to go there, and I
realize that you and I, just like many other contributors, are facing
this problem.
However, I realise that other people are not; in particular
our friends among the Sun hackers. Indeed, at the last two ESC
meetings, it has been similarly forbidden to discuss so called
'politics', instead focusing on technical issues.
which in essence means, that discussions will be managed
Sure, self regulated - I agree it sucks at some level, but
don't believe for a moment it's for my benefit.
I don't. I'm just afraid of ads replacing discussions, that's all.
- you seem to be ignoring the existence of "RegiCons", or regional
conferences that work very well.
Yep, was unaware of them; on the other hand I want to meet,
talk to and drink beer with hackers from all over the place: is that
what a RegiCon is ? if so, lets call it a RegiCon.
See my first comment: provided that the community as a whole is
invited, it is a Regicon, yes.
In short, you advertise for a Novell event. Notice that I think a
Novell event could be an interesting idea, but, as I wrote above,
the way it is being pictured looks problematic to me.
Problematic because it tramples on some existing RegiCon ? or
that it is primarily focused at developers[2] ? or because it's (as I
said) tacked onto the end of an existing Novell event, or becuase it's
organised by Novell ? or ... ?
It is problematic because of how it is advertised and because of how
it seemed to divide potential attendees.
Besides, the scheduling -roughly at the same time than the OOoCON if I
understood things well- is also counterproductive.
Best,
Charles.
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