Stephan Bergmann wrote:
On 10/10/08 15:02, Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
Here are some misunderstandings. QA isn't QA in software testing.

The developer talked often about code quality and he needs tools to
run, to check if his code break anything. The GUI testing with VCL
TestTool isn't such a tooling. The VCL TestTool check functionality
as a user in an installed Office. These tests need an installed
office and the TestTool as external testing tool. This cannot run
in the development environment and should be started by 'make'.
I don't understand why this should not be possible via make ?

I know that developers want to start it from the command line. But
therefore you need unit tests, complex tests and perhaps API tests.
These tests work on code base. The test with VCL TestTool are later
in the QA process and it has to done out of the developer environment.

So 'make' isn't a solution for such kind of test scripts.

I have to disagree. Running VCL TestTool tests (in addition to other tests, like unit tests and complex tests and whatnot tests) from within a build environment could indeed be useful (e.g., to integrate them in automatic builds, as Thorsten Behrens already pointed out in a recent mail). That doing so should technically be possible is demonstrated by module smoketestoo_native. What probably is a prerequisite for all this, though, is that the VCL TestTool has to produce stable, reproducible, unambiguous results (which, as my experience in the past has been, it does not always do).

full ack, but where is the disagreement (beside the integration ito make) ?
-Stephan
Martin


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