Hi Andreas,
Le 7 janv. 09 à 16:36, A.Meiszner a écrit :
> A hello to all and I hope this mail made it to the right section!
No doubt, most of the OOo devs will read it :)
If I can, for Education dedicated questions, there is a
[email protected] mailing list (subscribe is mandatory),
where I forwarded your mail.
> We are currently piloting an “open” approach for the course
“Introduction to Software Engineering” (ISE) at Aristotle University in
Greece,
That's a great idea. And I'm sincerily glad to read such news : you have
all my encouragements !
> aimed at bringing together Aristotle students, students from fellow
universities, open source practitioners and anyone else interested in SE.
As professor myself, in a french engineer school, I try to do the same
with my students, and I perfectly understand what your need is.
> To facilitate the students entrance to open source projects we are
now trying to organize some live events for Jan / Feb
> 2008 (chats, video sessions or pod casts at ustream) that would
introduce the students to some aspects relevant to
> working in open source environments.
If you are interested, I propose to discuss directly about that on IRC
(see below for the channel/server).
> Therefore I wondered if anyone here might be interested in chairing
one of those live events and to talk (A) about
> OpenOffice in general, some experiences and challenges, ways to
contribute to it, etc and (B) about a more generic
> topic relevant for “newbies” (e.g. “understanding the code”, etc).
In my free time, as myself developer for OOo since several years (mostly
Mac OS X port), and involved in mentoring students since several years
two (twice Google SoC mentor, and some other), and I sincerily think
OpenOffice.org Education Project can answer such request and organize
such event successfully.
In fact, we are used to do IRC meeting as "ClassRooms". Please notice we
use IRC, because people attending are from all around the world, and not
everybody has a good connectivity. So IRC is the less bad compromise.
Anyway, we provide all the logs, thus asynchronous se is possible too.
The bad thing is, due to lack of resources, we have not the time to
present something Funky, and that's a real mess.
> For this ISE course we set up an experimental open learning space
>
(http://www.netgeners.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=39&Itemid=92)
to facilitate the students
> work and to provide a central meeting point for the different
stakeholders.
Here we mostly use the OpenOffice.org wiki (see
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project ), mailing
lists, the svn repository, the sources and IRC channels. We could use
other resources, but since we concentrate on the code, and we do not
deliver any Diploma, we do not care too much about the shape :)
And if ever new contributor join the staff, no doubt we'll improve
everything very soon
> What we would like to achieve with this is to bring together open
source development & software engineering
> education – means to create a win / win scenario by allowing students
to gain practical skills (plus some soft skills)
> meanwhile contributing to an open source project.
What we aim to do with OpenOffice.org Education Project, is exactly
that. In particular, we try to involve :
- schools (as sponsor, and /or resources)
- students
- professors (as locale resource for student, and evaluation/validation
in the school
- developers and volunteers from the Project
.. means create a strong bridge between Educational system and the
project. All around the world.
As example, please have a look at
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project/Effort for
further information.
> The ISE course has app. 160 students per semester and the students
are supposed to carry out a project work within a open source project,
This is a lot of students, and excepted a lot of organisation, receiving
resources, and cooperation, I fear we currently are not able to manage
so many students yet.
> contributing to this open source project in one out of three ways: 1.
to identify (and fix) bugs, 2. to contribute to the code, or 3. to draft
/ improve the requirement specification documentation.
>
Well, you just are describing something very similar to the Effort we
started :)
> In the case you would know people from other open source projects
that might also be interested in chairing a live
> event I would be glad if you could circulate this mail.
>
Most of the people able to participate are now aware, with yor mail.
> Hope someone here might find this of interest!
Sure, you can believe me :-)
> Tips or hints to similar initiatives are more than welcome!
What about organize an IRC meeting ?
Better than IRC meeting exists, but until now, we have people joining
from all around the world, and not everybody has a good connectivity
(forget video). For tips and hints, I think there is nothing better than
discuss directly, and regularly (the best is to meet us face to face,
but as volunteer, non paid, I have no resource for travel, so I preoger
forget it ... )
Nevertheless,some intiatives I have in mind are :
- mozilla to seamonkey migration ( work in progress) with a student form
Epitech Paris
- Tablet PC overlay with Impress ( work in progress) with students from
Ecole Centrale Nantes. 2 students for the first part, 6 will continue
Soon: 3 students from UTBM ( France) will work on new OpenGL transitions
Last, but not least, Seneca College (Toronto, Canada) proposes the
students to teach OpenOffice.org in the cursus (first session will start
in a few days).
I have other entries, with other schools in France, and Italy, but maybe
can we continue on IRC ? ( channel is #education.openoffice.org and
server is irc.freenode.net )
Looking forward to reading you,
Eric Bachard
Co Lead,
OpenOffice.org Education Project
--
Education Project:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news
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