Stephan Bergmann pisze:
Anyway, there are many places in Java where developers don't suspect the context classloader in action (mostly XML-related), so I think this can break a lot of code, as this is really poorly documented both in JDK and in OOo API docs (meaning no mention at all). The blog post on gulfoss also mentions only setting paths in the manifest but this is not enough to make the extension work. Moreover, you don't know if you should set the classloader unconditionally (it doesn't work on Mac OSX), or conditionally, and if the previous classloader should be stored; if the classloader should be synchronized... etc. No examples, no documentation, so I'd expect many extensions to stop working.

Yes, as I said, the Java context class loader appears to be a bad hack, and a poorly documented one. [In short, my understanding is that (a) the context class loader should always be reset (in an exception-safe way) to its previous value immediately after making an "external" call to code that (indirectly) needs it, and (b) thread-synchronization is a non-issue, as the context class loader is per-thread.]

Well, as many XML libraries (DOM parsers, JAXB etc.) use it to load the classes, there should be an example how to do use it. The bad thing is that due to the way object-oriented libraries work, you might even be completely unaware that somewhere down there, there is a buried call to JAXB. For this reason it's hard to say where exactly you need to set the context classloader...

Just out of curiosity - what performance gains do you expect to have by not setting the context classloader? I mean if the Java code will set the context classloader anyway, what is there to gain? (Well, of course, you could have Java code that doesn't rely on any files, resources, XML files, but this would be a mere toy).

I do not have numbers, maybe Ocke (on cc) has---he requested the change. Also, I am not aware that "rely[ing] on any files, resources" triggers the requirement to set a context class loader, so my understandig is that there *is* non-trivial Java code that does not need a context class loader.

OK, you're right, you simply need to load resources in a non-recommended way (without using getResource()) to avoid any problems. As long as there is more documentation (preferably on the wiki) about Java classpath and classloaders in extensions, I think we could live with the change quite happily :)

So we need a small snippet of the code on the wiki.

Out of curiosity, what kind of trouble did you get into (assuming you re-set the context class loader to its originally value after calling the code that used it)?

In such a case the you cannot find any JAXB-related bind classes in Java 1.5 under Mac OS X (Leopard). Don't ask me why, probably the code in Apple JVM 1.5 is broken somewhere, as it is in many places.

You mean, you have an object O with method M taking N parameters, and calling O.M(A1,...,AN) requires the context class loader to be set to class loader C, and

  o = /* compute O */;
  a1 = /* compute A1 */;
  ...
  aN = /* compute AN */;
  ClassLoader c = /* compute C */;
  ClassLoader old = Thread.currentThread().getContextClassLoader();
  try {
    Thread.currentThread().setContextClassLoader(c);
    o.M(a1, ..., aN);
  } finally {
    Thread.currentThread().setContextClassLoader(old);
  }

fails to work? That would indeed appear to be a bug in O.M (or one of the methods indirectly called) or the JVM itself.

Yes, this didn't work if old != null on Mac OS X Leopard JVM 1.5. I don't own any Mac so I couldn't test it in detail, and buying an outdated machine just to test why its software doesn't work seems a bit crazy to me.

Regards
Marcin

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