eric.bachard wrote:
...
The colleague who mentored this
project doesn't work for Sun anymore.
That's not a good news :-/
well he left for many years. The project is not alive and we probably
don't want to go this way.
As far as i remember it, it was also task oriented, a simplified UI and
they used a lot of predefined templates.
...
The new is the behavior, e.g. we'd like to add a password to the prefs
.. and so on, and include pedaogical objectives for students doing that.
e.g. we' like to use the existing start center + the Impress wizard as
-sort of- design patterns, to write two new wizards, opening predefined
models in both writer and draw, but in two clicks, and insist on the use
of styles.
.. and so on
the idea with wizards to create a new text or calc document is usable
for the general office as well. For example guiding people to use styles
would be perfect...
I like it to help new users and it should be possible to disable it for
advanced users.
StarOffice4Kids used the officebean and put an own simplified Java UI
around.
Ok
well i don't talk about a real sub project. See it more as virtual
project.
No idea the name, in fact: we just do it, and we'll see later what is
the result.
But needs a lot of energy, people and time
....
We can define different UI themes for different user groups. One for
kids, one for traditional office users, etc.
IMHO, there is no need to redefine a new look. The teachers don't care
about the look. they want something adapted.
i am not sure. We need maybe no complete new look but a fresh and modern
look and i am sure we can improve things. But lets see what the
Renaissance project will bring us, they analyze a lot of user data ...
I don't know if this is possible but it's worse to think about it.
Maybe you thought "worth" ? (sorry, my poor english striked again :)
of course i meant "worth", in this case it was my pure English ;-)
We should try to work together in all the different areas and not side
by side.
What will certainly work. Now, it's important work together, but not to
be controled by.
Now, to answer you, all propositions are welcome. From our side, I can't
remember the number of times I invited people, including developers, to
present us what they do, under the form of IRC ClassRooms.
i know and i assume that it is in most cases simply the lack of time
Of course, the invitation is still valid : what about see people from
performance, UX, whatever project, join and present what they do to the
students on the channel ? The success of these ClassRooms is really
important (I myself particulary appreciated the one from Philipp Lohmann
(gsl), and Mathias Bauer (framework) ). At a point the system will be
copied by other entities (teach OpenSource is in the mood).
i know and i wanted to present as well but simply wasn't able to make it
until today. I promise that i will prepare something ...
As example, we could have people in charge to organize, one the UX part,
one the performance part, one something else ..
Another possibility (add both works too), could be to see, at fixed
hours/day in the week, be present on the IRC channel, and answer the
questions the students could have. Have a dedicated wiki page, to
prepare the questions .. and so on.
maybe, i personally don't really like IRC. I am sometimes online but
most often i simply haven't it running. But that is something where i
can improve myself.
IMHO, the best way is to see more devs joining : things will
automaticaly improve afterwards, without the need to add administrative
things in the middle. Waiting, I'd like to say a big thank you to
Thorsten Behrens, Bjoern Michaelsen, Cedric Bosdonnat and Pierre
Pasteau, who are present ~ every day on the channel, for the quality of
their contributions. Other devs are welcome :)
.. all of that is just suggestions, of course :)
sure and we can't enforce something it's a free and open community
Juergen
Regards,
Eric Bachard
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