On Friday 17 July 2009 02:26:11 andrzej zaborowski wrote: > 2009/7/15 Mikel Maron <[email protected]>: > > From discussion about linkedgeodata.org/ on geowanking... > > > > From: Sean Gillies <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > > >> I'm skeptical about RDF too, but the linked geodata folks are > >> adding some extra value (at least for a particular group of > >> users): hypertext, so that you or your software can follow your > >> nose through > >> linked nodes and ways without having to know an API specific to > >> OSM, and persistent URIs. I'm not knocking OSM's API, but > >> > >> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/264695865 > >> > >> isn't meant to be a "cool URI" for the Cafe B'liebig, is it? > >> Requests for the version 0.5 URIs like > >> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/node/1 return a 403, which > >> suggests to me that I shouldn't get too > >> attached to the 0.6 ones. Of course, URIs like > >> > >> http://linkedgeodata.org/triplify/node/264695865 > >> > >> have their own issue. Stamping the name of the semantic web > >> framework you happen to be using today on the URIs you want to > >> make future-proof isn't a cool thing to do. > > > > Sean has a very good point here about the permanence of URIs. > > Permalinks to OSM objects permits integration of these identifiers > > into other systems. At the moment, we don't have permalinks, > > because the API version is included in the URL. Perhaps the API > > could also support read-only, permalinks for objects, like > > http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/node/264695865 > > I don't believe linking to a XML snippet defining an object in osm is > extremely useful, but I can see other uses for objects in OSM being > universally "addressable" in the URL space (e.g. comparing whether > two objects are the same). In that case the word "api" probably > shouldn't appear in the URL either and also there's no point in it > being a http URL, so why not define something like > osm://openstreetmap.org/node/XXX as being the URL of a node in OSM. > This could then be easily translated by client into a http URL for > the xml snippet or the history web page for the object.
It would still pose the problem that nobody/nothing prevents the node moved 100km south-west, all tags renamed/removed/rewritten, and a new node created at the old place with the same tags instead... All the best, Tels -- Signed on Sat Jul 18 17:46:52 2009 with key 0x93B84C15. View my photo gallery: http://bloodgate.com/photos PGP key on http://bloodgate.com/tels.asc or per email. "... [the wireless lightbulb] rivals the invention of the cordless lightsaber. Luke Skywalker used to lose a LOT of battles until he ditched that awful extension cord. Kept getting his feet tangled up. And Count Doofus would laugh as he yanked on it and watched Luke fall on his ass. Also, sometimes opponents would pull the plug out of the wall socket and snicker at Luke's bewilderment. Yoda would just smack his head and say 'Duh-oh! The Force is not especially smart in this young one! Save up for Duracell adapter, he must.'" Walt Dismal (534799) on /. 2007-06-08
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