Hi Tobias - Thanks for the background - it's very helpful!
Moving to MediaWiki looks like it'll be a step in the right direction. However, it implements the language switcher in a way consistent with what I'm suggesting - please see the upper-right corner of this page for an example: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate Perhaps users should be allowed to have it collapsed or expanded by default? While I appreciate your suggestion, 100% of wiki users are currently impacted by a control that eats up 5-6 lines (15-20% of the vertical screen space on a 1400x900 display) but that could be solved with a discretely-located 2 word toggle for some large % of the users who use other languages. (e.g. English/Deutsch or Italiano/中文（繁體）<http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate#>) I'm guessing that there aren't a lot of people bouncing across more than 2 languages at a time. So, my premise is not that this isn't important, just that the way it's implemented is inefficient. (Others would add that the current language bar is a bit messy & makes things like the home page less friendly to newcomers, but I think those are tightly coupled with efficiency...) Thanks, Jeff On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Tobias Knerr <[email protected]> wrote: > On 08.11.2012 19:03, Jeff Meyer wrote: > > https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4675 > > > > Now... to figure out how to do this... > > As I've commented on the ticket, this might not be the best point in > time for fine-tuning the visual aspect of the translations. There has > been discussion about using the MediaWiki Translate extension for better > handling of translations and installation of this extension is scheduled > for the next software upgrade: > http://wiki.osm.org/Talk:Wiki_Translation#Translate_extension > > More generally, though, I feel slightly uncomfortable with your > suggestions to free "valuable real estate" or even collapse the list by > default. Most of our wiki content is not available in all languages, and > realistically will never be. (Many pages are not even expected to be > translated, such as proposals.) So switching between languages will > inevitably happen quite often for every user who wants to neither miss > out on a lot of wiki content nor go English only. > > Yes, it makes sense to think about a language link redesign. However, it > should not be based on the premise that these aren't important, and for > practical reasons I would prefer to wait until the technical foundations > of the translation system are in place. > > Tobias > > _______________________________________________ > dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev > -- Jeff Meyer Global World History Atlas www.gwhat.org [email protected] 206-676-2347
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