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> https://github.com/systemed/iD Choose an issue, and go for it! You will be part of making this actually happen. Thanks, Tom On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM, NopMap <ekkeh...@gmx.de> wrote: > Hi! > > I have just worked through all the previous posts here and experimented > with > the test instance in my home turf. The short anwer is: No, I do not believe > that ID is in a state to make it the default editor, especially not to > welcome newbies. > > The long answer: > > I still see very bad performance in Firefox. I noticed that editing has > been > limited to zoom 16 and higher which is a very crude way to limit the data > displayed. But it also makes orientation very difficult when you have to > move around. Even when there are not many lines to display, ID remains > jumpy, dragging of the map rather results in two jumps for moving a full > screen with up to one second delay in denser areas. > > I agree with the previous posts that ID is not a suitable editor for > beginners/as default as long as it presents destructive operations in such > a > prominent manner. I'm referring to the delete button but also to the > make-square, make-round and rotate options. You do not need these to draw > streets on top of tracks or aerial imagery, which is the basic start of > mapping. I have never used them at all. But they can be very destructive > for > existing geometry. An expert mode where you can add those operations later > might be a good solution. > > I tried deleting a few things and there was no warning that I was acting > destructively. The warning before saving is too general and the list of > change objects also does not indicate whether I did something dangerous. I > believe that immediate warnings when you do something dangerous (and an > expert switch to disable them later) would be very helpful to prevent > damage > and teach the user how to proceed. > > What's more, the existing icons would confuse me as a newcomer. For ways, > there is a move-around icon (which is useful), if I click on a node, only > delete is shown, nothing else. In particular, there is no move-around icon. > As a powermapper I know that I can directly drag the node and don't need > it, > but to a newcomer the absence might suggest that you should rather delete > the node with the prominent trashcan and re-create it somewhere else. > > The wording on the delete button is also misleading. It says: "remove this > from the map". But that is not what it does. It deletes it from the > database, not from any particular map. This encourages the common > misunderstanding that "OSM is a map" and of course unnecessary deletions. > > On the other hand, some very useful functions seem to be missing. Or at > least they are not offered as icons and I couldn't figure out how to do it. > One is "click on end node of line and continue drawing it" (click on node > in > P2). Another is "copy tags from similar way" (r in P2). > > There is some relation handling, but the visibility of relations is still > insufficient. They are shown in the sidebar, but with all instances I > tried, > the normal tags took up all the visible space in the bar and you had do > scroll down to read anything about relations. As they are not marked on the > map in any way, they are still invisible to the unsuspecting user. If you > don't know that there must be a relation there and directly look for it, > they remain totally invisible. > > I found the handling of multipolygons very confusing. I clicked a MP area > and the sidebar showed "Multipolygon". Pretending that I didn't know what > that is I clicked "i", only to be rewarded with "there is no documentation > for this key". I deleted some of the members with the message <not > downloaded> and ID accepted that without warning. I see no way a newcomer > had any chance to use this. > > I agree with the previous posts that OSM should not create a connection to > Facebook, Twitter or any other social service without conscious choice by > the user or in a way that suggests that it is an integral part of OSM or > that membership there is required in any way. A good solution might be a > plain "share" link on the save page that leads you to a setting where you > can opt-in to your favorite services if you like to. Or maybe you could > detect the Facebook session and tracking cookies and show it the button > only > if you have an active session. But currently it looks like OSM is simply > advertising for Facebook. > > bye, Nop > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Making-iD-the-default-editor-on-osm-org-tp5773770p5774123.html > Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > t...@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >
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