Hi Andy, hi Frederik, hi Maarten, >> I know that this is highly subjective: But why has the default map >> style to be that ugly? I don't mean it as a rant, I know how difficult >> it is to create something like this. I only say that it is 'ugly' >> because I know there are a lot better and several alternatives. >> >> What do I mean with 'ugly'? I mean, besides the ugly bing-magenta for >> country lines and some texts the style is very confusing - too many >> unimportant information are packed on especially the higher zoom >> levels (smaller than 12). Or the contrast to see main roads is just >> too low. Not sure. > > As you say: it's highly subjective. > I have no problem with the default OSM style at all. The only thing is > that from zooms 8 and lower I think the landuse may be less prominent. > Some time ago someone showed a new lowzoom renderer that looked rather > nice. > I also don't see a big difference between the .de and the default map. > The two differences are that .de has red-yellow motorways (in the > style of a lot of paper maps) and that the general theme is less red > and more green.
Yes, .de and default are not that different. But I think .de is one step into a good direction with somehow more contrast colours. And yes, the landuse is also one thing which is confusing to me (and others). > If you follow these lists for a while (and possibly the enhancement requests filed in trac or github for the map style) > then you will see that we have many many people keen on adding more and more detail to the map. Exactly that is what is the problem: too detailed on overview zoom levels. But it is good to hear that there will be progress on the style - not only on the internals (which is of course really great - see below). > We're trying to keep the default map usable but at the same time it is also used by mappers to get feedback on their edits; Ok, that is an argument. But I expect mappers to be able to switch the layer in their settings in comparison to an average 'luser'. > See the following video for some background regarding the current state of the main map style http://vimeopro.com/openstreetmapus/state-of-the-map-us-2013/video/68093876 > Since the conference, the new openstreetmap-carto stylesheets are now live, and many small improvements are starting to show up. I know. This is a really nice direction and lots of possibilities are opened via this. But I've always heard/read that the style has to stay the same. Could it be an option with Carto-CSS (in the future) that the default style is less detailed and mappers can enable this if they want? Who can decide and develop this in the future? Regards, Peter. _______________________________________________ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
