I am surprised at Joel's summarization that the 7 step use case he listed
in his original email is prohibited. If I were to show flight schedules
obtained from flightstats.com on an OSM map from mapbox, will that be
prohibited under odbl? What if I independently collect otherwise purchase
data for open and close hours for a merchant store and show all that on a
MapQuest open map? In both use cases above, I will have to take at least
place coordinates, bounding boxes and also tags from OSM. Is that
prohibited?

Thanks.
On Oct 19, 2014 9:10 PM, "Joel ..." <audiof...@outlook.com> wrote:

> Understood. My use case is prohibited. Remove the deception on the
> wiki.openstreetmap.com front page. It does not help the business because
> businesses succeed by way of customer service, respecting others, showing
> diginty, respect and morals. To refresh your memory, the first few lines of
> the page reads:
>
> "*Welcome to OpenStreetMap*, the project that creates and distributes free
> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright> geographic data for the world. We
> started it because most maps you think of as free actually have legal or
> technical restrictions on their use, holding back people from using them in
> creative, productive, or unexpected ways."
>
>
>
> > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:35:58 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Looking for OSM Licensing Clarification
> > From: rich...@weait.com
> > To: audiof...@outlook.com
> > CC: dev@openstreetmap.org
> >
> > The OpenStreetMap license ODbL is what is known as a Share Alike
> > license. In that class of licenses, one is granted more permissions
> > when one shares and shares alike. If, on the other hand, one wishes
> > to keep things for ones exclusive benefit, ones permissions are more
> > limited, perhaps even to a null set.
> >
> > Again, in very broad terms, one has more freedom if one uses the
> > OpenStreetMap data without changing it. Combining OpenStreetMap data
> > with other non-OpenStreetMap data sets, is an area where the
> > obligations to share are deliberately strong.
> >
> > The details matter in this subject area, and it is a benefit for you
> > to understand your obligations from the start. Please consider giving
> > more details and holding further discussion on the legal-talk@ mailing
> > list[1], which is the ideal location for this topic.
> >
> > [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
>
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