My five cents: at this moment, we have some widely used resources such as osm.org and osm carto, started and threated as single persons gh repository.
And we (osm community) don't have a way to discuss and evaluate changes in collaborative way. Usually maintainer just decides "Do I love this feature or not" and that's a kind of a problem. Yes "+ one" can say nothing about millions of other users, but neighter main maintainer can. I think we have to have key features as osm.org and main style maintained in more open way. Regards, Dmitry. 2017-02-24 12:04 GMT-04:00 William Temperley <willtemper...@gmail.com>: > > > On 24 February 2017 at 16:14, Tom Hughes <t...@compton.nu> wrote: > >> On 24/02/17 14:43, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 24/02/2017 11:19, Tom Hughes wrote: >>>> >>>> Well it was a little odd that we suddenly got several people who are not >>>>> regular commenters turning up in the space of a few minute to add "me >>>>> too" >>>>> style responses. >>>>> >>>> >>>> What's wrong with that? There are numerous discussions in Dev that I >>>> have no >>>> interest in, but on occasion there's something relevant to my OSM usage >>>> & I >>>> will make a comment. This current topic appears to be relevant to a few >>>> other users. >>>> >>>> OSM Github is not a private club. You should be welcoming other >>>> contributors, not 'closing' on them. >>>> >>> >>> I second this 100%! >>> >>> If something is of interest to someone and they know other >>> stakeholders who have similar use cases or the feature is important to >>> them, getting them to actually contribute their input is really an >>> invaluable opportunity for developers. >>> >> >> An issue tracker is not a general discussion board though, and there has >> to be some sort of limit to discussions there if we're not all going to be >> driven insane. >> >> The people that were turning up in this case were not saying adding new >> information by saying "I use that to do X" where X was something new that >> nobody had mentioned before that might change the balance of whether it was >> worth doing but rather they were just asserting that they used the feature >> like the previous commenters - they were adding quantity to the discussion >> not quality. >> >> I don't normally lock issues, so in the vast majority of cases people are >> welcome to comment on closed issues if they have some new information to >> add, and if that leads to a closed issue being reopened then that is fine. >> >> I lock issues when people are continuing to post in a way which is not >> useful and doesn't add anything - restating a position over and over again >> without adding new information is not meaningful discussion and when that >> happens I may decide to lock the issue. >> >> The alternative (to preserve my sanity) is that I simply unsubscribe from >> those issues and leave people to waffle on in an echo chamber but I'm not >> really sure that's better for anybody is it? >> >> >> > > I agree with Tom that an issue tracker is not a discussion board. > > The way it plays out is that the 0.1% with the (edge) use-case will come > across the issue, because it affects them and they searched for it. > Nobody else will know or care about its existence, because it hasn't > affected them. The result is therefore a very one-sided debate, and the > developer feels rail-roaded. > > I would suggest a new thread on this list (which is a discussion board) > with a subject something like "Show tile image option removed from OSM > website". > This can then be linked to from the offending issue and Tom can get on > with his good work. > > > _______________________________________________ > dev mailing list > dev@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev > > -- Thank you for your time. Best regards. Dmitry.
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