Here is the board report from 2016.

https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2016/board_minutes_2016_12_21.txt

And note that we will NOT rename OWB to Meecrowave. 
Meecrowave is just a bundle of Tomcat + OWB + CXF + Johnzon.
And as noted we already had install scripts for such things since ages, e.g.
https://github.com/apache/openwebbeans/tree/trunk/distribution/src/main/install_scripts

LieGrue,
strub

> Am 26.06.2017 um 12:32 schrieb Gurkan Erdogdu 
> <[email protected]>:
> 
> 
> Mark thanks for your comments
> 
> Firstly, even if I am not an active committer of owb currently, as a founder 
> and pmc member of the project, I am a keen observer of the project and have 
> some words to say for the future of owb
> 
> I am not a blocker of such initiative as Meecrowave but you are killing and 
> diverting the owb as a main project (it is not just a subproject, it has own 
> webpage, own release cycle, own issues etc like an another tlp project)
> 
> For the tomcat integration , we had just been implenting plugins that allows 
> to run owb in tomcat and openejb but they are not like a Meecrowave (they are 
> the really subcomponents of owb). Then anybody can implement a  new project 
> based on owb, create own webpage and say that it is a subproject? 
> 
> For the Tomee, it is really another story. One can say lot more about it but 
> I do not want to get into to complicate the discussion. Just look at the 
> Apache Geronimo destiny. Then you think to convert project name from owb to 
> meecrowave like openejb to tomee? 
> 
> I am just saying the follow the ASF rules correctly and for the benefit of 
> the community. Why not create a incubator proposal to implement such 
> microprofile server runtime environment? And also future wise, independent of 
> owb and work with any cdi, also implements microprofile specification? We can 
> work together to write such incubator proposal
> 
> Also I missed the  board report you mentioned, could you provide the link?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gurkan
> 
>> On 26 Jun 2017, at 11:01, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Gurkan, you probably missed something in the 5 years you have been inactive 
>> in OWB.
>> You are basically years late with discussing Meecrowave. We have discussed 
>> and decided this on the public mailing lists long ago.
>> 
>> And we basically have Meecrowave since even much longer than that! We didn't 
>> bundle it, but we provide install scripts to 'enrich' Apache Tomcat with OWB 
>> since many years now.
>> 
>>> We can also bring this issue in a board report and getting advice from the 
>>> board
>> 
>> We ALREADY checked our approach with the board and got the OK. This is 
>> really similar than TomEE which started as sub project of OpenEJB. It is 
>> perfectly fine with the foundation! 
>> You probably missed all this work due to your absence. Though I'd like to 
>> state that I'd really happy if you'd become active again in OWB! 
>> 
>> As Romain already explained: 
>> TomEE is based on OpenEJB and will always be. 
>> Meecrowave is heavily based on OWB and will always be.
>> 
>> We just separated it out into an own project because we heavily rely on 
>> Tomcat and would love to not mix up the release cycles of Tomcat and OWB 
>> core.
>> 
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 25.06.2017 um 20:43 schrieb Gurkan Erdogdu 
>>> <[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> As I said earlier , Meecrowave project needs to be seperated from owb, it 
>>> has own project page, codebase, issues, release cycle etc. There are two 
>>> options in here either Tomee subproject or  new in incubator project. My 
>>> binding vote will be -1 for such release otherwise. I know that incubator 
>>> projects needs much more admin work but from my opinion this is the way of 
>>> introducing such new project in ASF
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Gurkan
>>> 
>>>> On 17 Jun 2017, at 20:38, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks!
>>>> 
>>>> We are finished with implementing all CDI-2.0 features and now 
>>>> successfully pass the standalone TCK!
>>>> A recent owb-2.0.0-SNAPSHOT is deployed to the Apache Snapshots repository 
>>>> [1].
>>>> This get's deployed via Jenkins each night.
>>>> 
>>>> It would be great if you could try it out and give us some feedback!
>>>> We gonna release it somewhen next week.
>>>> 
>>>> txs and LieGrue,
>>>> strub
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/
>>> 
>> 
> 

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