Checked a bit the options we have and i'm quite unhappy with all of them so after having checked I would be to keep a very light abstraction like we have (LogFacade from memory) and switch back on JUL by default in all our integrations (core+available config, bundle, maven, ...). Log4j2 would still be usable adding it in the classpath but it wouldn't be delivered anymore by default.
Romain Manni-Bucau @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance> Le sam. 14 juil. 2018 à 15:10, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> a écrit : > found back https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1650, maybe we > can revive it > > Romain Manni-Bucau > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github > <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance> > > > Le sam. 14 juil. 2018 à 12:28, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > a écrit : > >> Hi Mark, >> >> you can use JUL with meecrowave (I do in some integrations) so I guess >> the discussion is rather: do we contribute to log4j2 to clean it up or do >> we drop it. I wouldn't go back to log4j1 which is really in maintenance >> mode and no more adapted to today's apps. >> >> Romain Manni-Bucau >> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog >> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog >> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github >> <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book >> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance> >> >> >> Le sam. 14 juil. 2018 à 11:41, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid> >> a écrit : >> >>> hi folks! >>> >>> I've reviewed our use of logging and I wonder if it's really worth it to >>> use log4j2? >>> It adds a whoopy 2MB to our bundle. That's quite something :/ >>> >>> I'd love to keep the MDC feature. This is really essential for my >>> dayjob. But log4j1 is just 300kB whereas log4j2 is 2MB. >>> So is it really worth it? >>> Note that log4j2 was substantially smaller (900kB) in 2.0 but >>> continuously grew over the last 2 years. >>> I've already triggered a discussion over there. >>> >>> Wdyt? >>> Would of course be a MW-2.3.x release. >>> >>> LieGrue, >>> strub >>> >>>
