Thanks for the interesting musings... one random comment. > - I went to a number of talks, most of which were very interesting. The > most > entertaining of all was a talk by Michelle Levesque about the scattered > state of python-based web technology implementations.
I've watched her PyWebOff with great interest, but I've always thought it's a symptom of a really sad development, the fracturing of python web programming into a zillion tiny mini-frameworks, of which usually none is enough for what you want to do. Since each is small, not totally mature, and lacking in documentation, t's really hard to commit to using python to write web apps. And then since none of the frameworks are heavily used, none can become mature; and then other people come along and just put together their own, compounding the problem. When web scripting was kinda new, bookstores used to be full of titles things like "web programming in python" -- now they've gone away for rows and rows of PHP books, which is sad. If the community had coordinated on a pragmatic, useful post-CGI framework back in the late 90's, one with quick-n-dirty features like PHP has, Python could've had popularity something like php's today, but it's certainly too late now... (consider going up against http://php.net/history) -Brendan On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:16:20 -0800 (PST), Andi Vajda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > With the ample feedback already posted to this list about last week at PyCON, > here are few things I can add: > > - PyCON is much much nicer than Java One. It is much more informal, much > more to the point, completely un-corporate. > - Sometimes, it felt like some religious organization run by very nice > zealots. For more on that see http://www.pythonology.org/ and then > compare > it with http://www.scientology.org/ :) > - I went to a number of talks, most of which were very interesting. The > most > entertaining of all was a talk by Michelle Levesque about the scattered > state of python-based web technology implementations. > - The main reason I went was for PyLucene and the talk I gave there. It was > the first time in 15 years I spoke in public, at least this time I got to > use English (last time I talked in 1989 at the FAW in Ulm, Germany, in > mostly German). > I got to meet with some people interested in PyLucene. One PyLucene user > was there too, Wai Yip Tung, who also gave a lightening talk about his > project, MindRetrieve.net, built with PyLucene. Wai Yip Tung is local and > I invited him to come present his stuff at one of our OSAF lunch/staff > meetings as his app could become a nice Chandler parcel. > Other PyLucene users I had never heard of before just walked up to me and > warmly thanked me for doing it and shook my hand. Kind of nice :) > - Lightening talks were a most refreshing way of presenting things. > Basically it goes as follows: you cram a bunch of geeks into a too small > room and have ten of them in one hour come up to the mike and talk about > their project in 5 minutes or less. Very interesting, no time to get > bored. I must say that all ten people had something interesting to say. > I wish there was more of that. > > I'm very glad I went to PyCON. Lots of nice people, lots of opportunities to > meet people and find synergies between projects. > > Andi.. > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > Open Source Applications Foundation "Dev" mailing list > http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Open Source Applications Foundation "Dev" mailing list http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/dev
