+1 for the mocking framework. :-)

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL
<[email protected]> wrote:
> That sounds reasonable.  I fully concur that our project's audit and
> oversight level is not the norm.   We thus already accept that we have more
> work to do in dealing with added dependencies than normal.  This isn't just
> in regards to PDFBox, btw.
>
> My expression of concern here is in the spirit of "If I can avoid increasing
> that work, I will!"  :-D
>
> The truth is, given the time frames, I'm really looking out for someone else
> who will end up with that work dumped on them.  I would not be a good team
> player if I didn't advocate for conservatism on this point.
>
> Mel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:49 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Mocking Frameworks
>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Jukka - It isn't about what I 'want' to go through.
>
> Yeah, sorry for picking on you specifically. My point is that what
> you're describing is a rather high level of oversight that isn't
> mandatory or even desirable for the average PDFBox user. Thus while I
> do understand your reluctance on new dependencies (even test ones), in
> the bigger picture it seems to me like a rather marginal concern when
> balanced against the potential benefit to all PDFBox users through
> better test coverage.
>
>> As I said before, the committers have final say, not I.  If this gets
> added,
>> then when we upgrade to that version of PDFBox, we will simply have to go
>> through the necessary bureaucratic hoops.
>
> Note that PDFBox 1.7 will in any case have a lot of new code and
> dependencies thanks to the recent integration of the preflight and
> xmpbox components.
>
> Anyway, if you want to avoid the extra test dependency, I suggest you
> look at the patch Rey's planning to submit and then submit a followup
> patch that modifies the new test cases to not require the mock
> library. That's the Apache way of resolving conflicts like these.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>

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