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Michael Klink commented on PDFBOX-5070:
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Another remark concerning the proposal to _gather OCSP responses before 
signing_...

A comment to [DSS-2361|https://ec.europa.eu/cefdigital/tracker/browse/DSS-2361] 
reminded me of TS 119 102-1, in particular of
{panel:title=5.2.5.4 Processing (5.2.5 Revocation freshness checker)}
When there is information about the signing time, the *validation time* 
parameter corresponds to a time when it is known the signature already existed 
(this can also be the time when a signed document has been received for 
example). If the maximum accepted freshness is then set to zero (0), the 
algorithm ensures that *revocation information is only accepted if it has been 
issued after that point in time*.
{panel}
I.e. when validating according to eIDAS (which this ETSI TS is about), OCSP 
responses to embed must be collected *after signing*, even *after first 
timestamping* the signature, so _the OCSP responses lifetime does -not- start 
after signature time._

> LTV: allow to gather OCSP responses before signing 
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: PDFBOX-5070
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PDFBOX-5070
>             Project: PDFBox
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Signing
>    Affects Versions: 2.0.23
>            Reporter: Ralf Hauser
>            Priority: Minor
>
> Then, the OCSP responses lifetime does not start after signature time.
> This obviously only can work if the signing cert serial# is known prior to 
> signing (see PDFBOX-2776 comment-17220875 )
>  



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