I think there will be an M2, which will likely include fewer changes.
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PJ Fanning <[email protected]> 于2025年11月27日周四 00:39写道:

> There will be an M2. So I see no need to wait for unfinished changes. Even
> incomplete changes can be merged in workable preview state.
> It would unblock a lot of work to have an M2 so that changes can proceed in
> other Pekko repos and in the wider ecosystem.
>
> On Wed 26 Nov 2025, 16:01 kerr, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > +1 for M1
> > Providing an M1 version will allow our relevant components to be ready.
> >
> > 何品
> >
> >
> > Arnout Engelen <[email protected]> 于2025年11月26日周三 08:01写道:
> >
> > > I do want to cut 2.0.0-M1 in the next few days. I'm sure we'll find
> > plenty
> > > of more things to improve/fix and justify an M2 in the not-too-distant
> > > future. In the meantime even if
> > https://github.com/apache/pekko/pull/2409
> > > doesn't make it into M1, you can start on the request/response
> > compression
> > > against a nightly, so that shouldn't block you _too_ much.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Arnout
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 10:21 AM Matthew de Detrich <
> > [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The implementation of zstd compression/decompression is fairly simple
> > as
> > > > the underlying zstd-jni library provides a JVM stream implementation
> > with
> > > > ByteBuffer's that does most of the hard work.
> > > >
> > > > I should be done this week, at the point of writing tests now. I
> > > understand
> > > > wanting to unblock satellite modules but at the same time I cannot
> > > > implement zstd request/response compression without this change and
> > > having
> > > > to wait an entire month or so for another milestone is unnecessary
> (in
> > my
> > > > view)
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 10:07 AM Arnout Engelen <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure we should further delay the milestone for this, but
> > since
> > > > > we're still waiting for
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-27312
> > > > > there
> > > > > might be a good chance of getting it in anyway ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 8:38 AM Matthew de Detrich <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry to add one thing onto the list, but I am currently working
> on
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pekko/issues/2404 and it would make
> > sense
> > > > for
> > > > > > this to be done and tested for the 2.0.0-M1 release so that
> > > pekko-http
> > > > > can
> > > > > > use the zstd compression/decompression flow for http
> > > responses/requests
> > > > > > that are compressed via zstd (its now an rfc standard in the same
> > way
> > > > > gzip
> > > > > > is and browsers have added support for it, see
> > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zstd).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 5:12 PM Arnout Engelen <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jup. I'd like to stage it via
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/pekko/pull/2314
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > > reviews welcome :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2025 at 10:48 PM Matthew de Detrich <
> > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now is indeed a good time for a M1, there are more changes
> that
> > > we
> > > > > can
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > that I think would be useful but most importantly we should
> > > unblock
> > > > > > > > satellite projects
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed 1. Oct 2025 at 11:44, PJ Fanning <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Now that we have the Scala 2.13.17 uptake done, I think we
> > are
> > > > in a
> > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > position to do a code freeze on the main branch and proceed
> > > with
> > > > an
> > > > > > > RC. I
> > > > > > > > > guess the timing will depend on Arnout's availability.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2025/09/29 09:48:28 kerr wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > +1, any update can come up in other Milestones
> > > > > > > > > > 何品
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Arnout Engelen <[email protected]> 于2025年9月29日周一
> 16:48写道:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > +1, and I volunteer to RM
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 2:01 PM PJ Fanning <
> > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > There are quite a few changes completed for the
> > milestone
> > > > > > > already.
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pekko/milestone/5?closed=1
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I propose that we aim to finish up some of the
> changes
> > > that
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > > > > to go and create an RC and start a vote in maybe a
> > week's
> > > > > time.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I would expect at least 1 more milestone with
> > significant
> > > > > > changes
> > > > > > > > > > > > before we try to stabilise the branch for a final
> 2.0.0
> > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I think it is best to maybe park discussion on the 1
> > or 2
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > debated
> > > > > > > > > > > > changes and come back to them in a few weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The advantage of getting an M1 out there is that we
> can
> > > > > create
> > > > > > > > > > > > equivalent M1s for Pekko HTTP, gRPC, Connectors, etc
> > and
> > > > > > > facilitate
> > > > > > > > > > > > lib maintainers and others who might like to see how
> > easy
> > > > or
> > > > > > > > > otherwise
> > > > > > > > > > > > it is for them to support the 2.0.0 changes.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The 2.0.0 jars are not expected to work well with
> libs
> > > that
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > > > compiled with Pekko 1.x dependencies. I think most
> use
> > > > cases
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > require some small code changes and recompilation. It
> > > could
> > > > > be
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > number of weeks before downstream Pekko libs (HTTP,
> > gRPC,
> > > > > > > > Connectors,
> > > > > > > > > > > > etc) are ready for this.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Pekko 1.x will continue to be maintained.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What do people think?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > ASF Security Response
> > > > > Apache Pekko PMC member, ASF Member
> > > > > NixOS Committer
> > > > > Independent Open Source consultant
> > > > >
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