Will read and respond in more detail later, but about 3 days after my post here, rooneg/chipig/wrowe brought up this issues on infra@ without anything from me, though I did respond.

Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:

On 26-Sep-06, at 6:06 PM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote:

Hi,

[CC'ed PMC@, feel free to drop it in replies]

Our release management / tagging needs some attention.

When we do:
svn copy  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/perl/modperl/trunk \
    https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/perl/modperl/tags/$(VERSION_SYM)

Its pretty much pointless at this point.

1) the svn:externals for Apache-Test ALWAYS point to TRUNK and are not reflective of the intent of the tag. This is fixable by simply svn propedit svn:externals . after making the tag. In the future, this will affect Apache-SizeLimit as well.
   I do not think its worth it to update docs?

Yes, this has been bugging me for a long time. Various things could be done about it.

1. Build up the 'tag' in multiple steps (automated), doing the svn copy, then updating
the svn:externals, updating the release, etc

The problem with this solution is, what do you update the svn:external proprety to ? You can't really update it easily, so it's almost best to svn copy Apache-Test into that
new tag as well, without the externals

2. Never use svn:externals to anything but known fixed tags (Apache-Test/tags/0.01)

#1 would be easier to implement, but cause all sort of pains for development. Any change that requires both A-T, and mp changes would need to be broken in 2 pieces, checkin
the A-T piece first, tag, update mp's external tag, checkin new mp code.

To me, the most important thing is that if I choose to checkout modperl/tags/2.0.2/ I should get _exactly_ what was in the published tarball. Exactly how we get there is left as an implementation
detail ;-)


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