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ASF GitHub Bot commented on PHOENIX-4130:
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Github user JamesRTaylor commented on a diff in the pull request:

    https://github.com/apache/phoenix/pull/290#discussion_r164180657
  
    --- Diff: 
phoenix-core/src/main/java/org/apache/phoenix/hbase/index/write/IndexWriterUtils.java
 ---
    @@ -70,13 +70,13 @@
        public static final String HTABLE_KEEP_ALIVE_KEY = 
"hbase.htable.threads.keepalivetime";
     
        public static final String INDEX_WRITER_RPC_RETRIES_NUMBER = 
"phoenix.index.writes.rpc.retries.number";
    -   /**
    -    * Based on the logic in HBase's AsyncProcess, a default of 11 retries 
with a pause of 100ms
    -    * approximates 48 sec total retry time (factoring in backoffs).  The 
total time should be less
    -    * than HBase's rpc timeout (default of 60 sec) or else the client will 
retry before receiving
    -    * the response
    -    */
    -   public static final int DEFAULT_INDEX_WRITER_RPC_RETRIES_NUMBER = 11;
    +    /**
    +     * Retry server-server index write rpc only once, and let the client 
retry the data write
    +     * instead to avoid typing up the handler
    +     */
    +   // note in HBase 2+, numTries = numRetries + 1
    +   // in prior versions, numTries = numRetries
    +   public static final int DEFAULT_INDEX_WRITER_RPC_RETRIES_NUMBER = 1;
    --- End diff --
    
    We need to conditionally leave it at 11 versus use 1 based on the client 
version. Old clients wouldn't have the retry logic, so we'd need to continue 
retrying on the server.


> Avoid server retries for mutable indexes
> ----------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: PHOENIX-4130
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-4130
>             Project: Phoenix
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Lars Hofhansl
>            Assignee: Vincent Poon
>            Priority: Major
>             Fix For: 4.14.0
>
>         Attachments: PHOENIX-4130.v1.master.patch, 
> PHOENIX-4130.v2.master.patch, PHOENIX-4130.v3.master.patch
>
>
> Had some discussions with [~jamestaylor], [~samarthjain], and [~vincentpoon], 
> during which I suggested that we can possibly eliminate retry loops happening 
> at the server that cause the handler threads to be stuck potentially for 
> quite a while (at least multiple seconds to ride over common scenarios like 
> splits).
> Instead we can do the retries at the Phoenix client that.
> So:
> # The index updates are not retried on the server. (retries = 0)
> # A failed index update would set the failed index timestamp but leave the 
> index enabled.
> # Now the handler thread is done, it throws an appropriate exception back to 
> the client.
> # The Phoenix client can now retry. When those retries fail the index is 
> disabled (if the policy dictates that) and throw the exception back to its 
> caller.
> So no more waiting is needed on the server, handler threads are freed 
> immediately.



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