+1, Agree with you Istvan.

Thanks,
Rajeshbabu.

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 9:26 PM Geoffrey Jacoby <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1, assuming no volunteer comes forward who wants to modernize and maintain
> Tephra.
>
> Geoffrey
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 6:04 AM Istvan Toth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > As recently noticed by Lars, Tephra hasn't been working in Phoenix since
> > 5.1/4.16 due to a bug.
> >
> > The fact that this went unnoticed for a year, and the fact that generally
> > there seems to be minimal interest in Tephra suggests that we should
> > re-visit the decision to maintain Tephra within the Phoenix project.
> >
> > The last two commits that were not aimed at fighting bit-rot, but were
> real
> > fixes were committed in Jun 2019 by Lars. In the last two and a half
> years,
> > all we did was try to keep ahead of bit-rot, so that Tephra keeps up with
> > new HBase and maven releases, and the changes in the CI infra.
> >
> > Tephra uses an old Guava version, and depends heavily on the retired
> Apache
> > Twill project.
> > This is a major tech debt, and an adoption blocker (CVEs in direct Tephra
> > dependencies), which is also carried over into the Phoenix dependencies
> and
> > shaded artifacts that we should rectify.
> > PHOENIX-6064 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-6064> ,
> which
> > broke Tephra support, itself is a workaround so that we can avoid
> shipping
> > Tephra, and its problematic dependencies.
> >
> > Ripping out Twill, and updating Guava and other dependencies is a
> > non-trivial amount of work (I estimate 1-4 weeks, depending on
> familiarity
> > with Tephra/Twill/Guava).
> >
> > At the moment, no-one seems to be interested enough in Tephra to bring
> its
> > tech debt to acceptable levels, and in fact no-one seems to be using it
> > with any recent Phoenix release (as it doesn't work in them).
> >
> > I suggest that you also check out the discussion between Lars and me in
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-6615 for some more details
> > and background.
> >
> > Based on the above, I propose retiring Tephra, and removing Tephra
> support
> > from Phoenix 5.2 / 4.17, unless someone steps up to solve the above
> issues
> > and maintain Tephra.
> >
> > Note that this would not mean dropping transaction support from Phoenix,
> as
> > Omid support is in much better shape, and is actively used.
> >
> > Please share your thoughts on the issue, if you are using Tephra and/or
> can
> > commit to solving the issues above, or if you agree on its removal, or
> any
> > other suggestions or objections.
> >
> > regards
> > Istvan
> >
>

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